All of you should run for office, and help each other… PERIOD. (18 posts)

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  • Profile picture of Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion-121p said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Look.. if you want to change the government, then you must take over it… and so.. change it, by getting elected into office and leading that charge of change.
    Many of you may know me… I am running for U.S. President… in 2012… right now.. and because of it, many of you, mostly your leaders… treat me like shit… basically.. AND THEY DO NOT WANT YOU.. TO ADOPT LEADERS EITHER… which is mega lame….

    if you want to have a movement.. you must have leaders.. an army of them… all prepared to take over if their leader should fall… thats how it works.. that is how it is done… thats how you organize an army.. rank.

    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU… should be working with a candidate… OR SHOULD BE A CANDIDATE…

    its basically.. about 5000 dollars.. for any local or state office… to get on the ballot…
    the OWS… movement… could afford to put forth MANY CANDIDATES..
    SO MANY….
    SO MANY…. THAT YOU ARE ASSURED OF TAKING POWER.

    THERE IS NO WAY TO LOOSE… IF YOU HAVE GOOD CANDIDATES AND GOOD PLANKS….
    why do the OWS leaders… those who control the money…. why do they not do this?

    Why do most of you… say… you do not want to run.????

    “Those who refuse to go into politics, are doomed to be ruled over by lesser men!” -Plato

    Wake up… if you want to fight… then fight.. fight to take over.

    I will help you… if you have the nerve.

    -Mosheh Thezion
    Candidate for U.S. President in 2012

    http://mosheh.org/Home.html

    1-818-397-1352
    campaign@mosheh.org

  • wake up people.

  • Profile picture of Ilana Ilana1p said 1 month, 4 weeks ago:

    Maybe this is something that we could look into further – seeing what interest there is and what resources could be available to facilitate those interested in running for offices…

    I feel like for many people, the biggest barrier is money. We live in a place where it costs a lot of money to even consider running for local office, let alone state level or federal. Most people don’t have money and don’t have friends/family with money to spend either.

    I’d be very interested to hear more about what you have to say, Mosheh.

  • Profile picture of Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion-121p said 1 month, 4 weeks ago:

    Every state is different… but… to get on the ballot… ALL YOU NEED IS ABOUT 5000 DOLLARS… OR… as in California… 15,000 registered voters…
    the OWS movement…. can easily get… 30,000 signitures… for each candidate…. and start taking over offices….
    Besides… the OWS movement… has raised… big money… and they are not using it to take over.
    Which is sad…

    I mean… whats the point…. eh????

    Its not that hard to run….

    Plato said…
    ” Those who refuse to go into politics, ARE DOOMED TO BE RULED OVER BY LESSER MEN.”

    Get it…??

    if you all will not run…. then you must accept being ruled over by the morons that do… and its your fault.. for not standing up… as a better candidate.

    -Mosheh Thezion

  • Profile picture of jarret wolfman jarret wolfman30p said 1 month, 4 weeks ago:

    @moshehthezion2 some of us already are. i think in ohio they started an occupy party. and check out http://www.occupygovt.net. :)

  • Profile picture of Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion-121p said 1 month, 4 weeks ago:

    Well… its a start…. but not overly impressive, for a movement such as this…. as it seems, so much effort is being used to talk about protest… instead of taking over.

  • Profile picture of Mark [Formerly Nobody Important] Ferguson Mark [Formerly Nobody Important] Ferguson75p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    @moshehthezion2 – Taking over is not the solution to the many problems facing this country. Correcting what allows these problems to manifest themselves is a solution that will work long term.

    Defining what a “Person” is and removing the rights of political participation from all created entities.

    http://www.nycga.net/groups/constitution/docs/constitutional-amendment-to-define-the-status-of-created-entities

  • Profile picture of Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion-121p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    Excuse me… Mark…. but you… made it clear you DO NOT CARE ABOUT SOLUTIONS… because I offered them to you.. all, and it has been ignored… YOU CANNOT DEBATE THE PROPOSALS DOWN… and so… the majority of you… have chosen simply to ignore me, and give me a thumbs down…
    THAT…. IS NOT THE BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE WHO WANT SOLUTIONS.
    For example… you are bent on the citizens united case…. when in fact we can see… it does not help Republicans in anyway… because their candidates are lame lap dogs…. ha.

    if you really care about solutions… read mine, and adopt them.

    AND.. IF YOU CANNOT ADOPT OR HELP POLITICIANS WITH GOOD SOLUTIONS…. then you.. must all run for office to replace the corupt people you are so upset with… PERIOD.

    -Mosheh Thezion
    Candidate for U.S. President in 2012

    http://mosheh.org/Home.html

    1-818-397-1352
    campaign@mosheh.org

  • Profile picture of Mark [Formerly Nobody Important] Ferguson Mark [Formerly Nobody Important] Ferguson75p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    This is your problem. You make statements like this:

    “if you really care about solutions… read mine, and adopt them”

    Which means to everybody that if you don’t adopt everything I say then you do not want to solve the problems. It is the same as saying, “If you like blue…. you will paint your house and car blue”.

    This is intentional from you from what I have read. You should really consider stopping telling people what they must think and do in order to care about solving the problems. This is why everybody ignores what you say.

  • Profile picture of Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion-121p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    Mark… What you fail to do… or anyone fails to do… is suggest that I am wrong….
    ok.. sure… my methods are flawed… I am flawed… sure… its true… I can be an ass.
    BUT… YOU ALL… WANT SOLUTIONS… AND WHEN OFFERED ONE… ONE YOU CANNOT ACTUALLY ARGUE WITH…. you chose to ignore it, simply because the messenger is ugly.
    is that what matters????
    DO I HAVE TO BE PERFECT??? DO I MATTER????
    no… i do not matter.

    IS THE WORTH OF AN ECONOMIC SOLUTION BASED ON HOW COOL THE MESSENGER IS???????
    SHOULD IT BE?????
    NO…. and to suggest my proposals are lame… simply because I AM LAME… IS FALSE.

    AGAIN… this shows what I mean… you do not like me… and so… you reject the proposals.

    if you really cared about solutions… you would focus on ONLY THE SOLUTIONS.

    I ONLY SAY THIS… and do this… because I always win the argument… and the only thing people can do… is either ignore me… or accept that I am probably right.

    YOU… just admitted… that if you do not like the messenger, then the idea must be bad also.

    I do not matter sir… the only thing that matters is solution… PERIOD.

    I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BE HARSH… as the resistance from people like you is huge.

    IF ALL YOU WANT… IS A GOOD LOOKING LEADER… THEN you will get what you seek.

    if you want solutions, and are willing to accept them from an ASS LIKE ME… then you would do that.

    No one argues…. that is why I talk so tuff… period.

    I may die… tomorrow… and still there will be not argument… and it would be sad, if it takes you years to wake up to the fact that you had the solution plan you need all along… but could not accept it, until the messenger was 6 feet under.

    gesh… if you care about finding solution… then you should consider it.
    if you cannot do so…. if you cannot see past me… then you really do not care that much.

    -Mosheh Thezion

  • Profile picture of dennis dorgan dennis dorgan2p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    Yes, I like this plan, and it seems unarguable so maybe OWS should consider it.

  • Profile picture of Corey Corey2p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    An army of unqualified pols would do more harm than good, although I am very supportive of the idea of a third party who shares the ideals of OWS.

  • Profile picture of Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion Mosheh Eesho Muhammad Al- faraj Thezion-121p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    AND… I am still waiting for an argument…. and thats ok… what matters, is that you all wake up to the fact that NO ONE…. NO ONE… IS UNQUALIFIED TO RUN FOR OFFICE…. if you have half a brain, and care about the poor masses… then you have all the qualifications you need.
    lets face facts….. most of the people IN OFFICE TODAY… were not qualified when elected.
    You can learn… along the way… as long as you stay true to what matters, you can avoid being corrupted.
    If you get corrupted… then you become part of the problem, and should step down.

    Regardless… if you had the nerve to run, I… am here to educate you, and advise you, if needed.
    As are many others… most of whom… will misled and corrupt you…

    -Mosheh Thezion
    Candidate for U.S. President in 2012

    http://mosheh.org/Home.html

    1-818-397-1352
    campaign@mosheh.org

  • Profile picture of Corey Corey2p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    You want to argue? Explain to me how you expect to abolish taxes, pay off the national debt, and build a wall on our border armed 24/7 with the national guard?

  • Profile picture of image image-22p said 1 month, 3 weeks ago:

    Please see:

    http://www.nycga.net/groups/political-action/forum/topic/some-of-us-should-run-for-office-and-maybe-help-each-otherok/