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Regular Meeting

November 5, 2011

Members Present: Leia, Uma, Michael P., David M., Bill, Patrick, Michael K., Andy, Janelle, Jim, Chris, Amy, Natasha, Frank, Peter, Chris D., Ross

Meeting convened at 12:30p.m.

The meeting begins with 1 minute of respectful silence.

Consensus is reached around the following agenda: 1) A 5 minute review of the Iroquois Peace Principles from Bill. 2) A 5 minute review of changes around the Spokes Council that may affect us from Andy. 3) Work on a method for accessing the blueprint, feedback data. 4) Digest the feedback document.

Bill reviews the Iroquois Peace Principles and reads the Declaration of Interdependence. He reminds the group of the three key ideas: Always work for peace, always work for unity, and always carry a good message. He also reminds them to consider phrasing their statements in the final document in the form of questions.

Andy reviews the Spokes Council changes. We are a movement group, so we will have to link up with one or more operations groups in order to get anything done in the council. We can still go straight to the GA at any time, and there should be more room for us there now that the council will handle most operational details. Consensus is reached around the idea of applying to the Spokes Council as a movement group.

After much discussion of alternate methods, consensus is reached around the idea of forming breakout groups to attempt to sort the blueprint and GA feedback into idea buckets as follows: visions, goals, values & actions. The groups will work for 20 minutes on point 7 and any other later points that they may have time to address.


David reports that his group found three components in point 7: egalitarianism, which they considered a vision; defending inalienable rights, which they considered a goal; and defining inalienable rights, which they also considered a goal. The issue of defining rights had many questions associated with it – should we think of it more of a process to set in motion than an item for this document? Also, perhaps this is a question that we could pull out for consideration by the GA for release on November 11th.

Bill reports that his group found point 7 to be a vision, and they explored some of the goals that might be needed to achieve that vision. Among the items discussed were clean air, clean water, healthy food, shelter, clothing, freedom of expression, education, horizontal government, freedom of movement, community and fellowship. They also thought that point 7 opened up the issue of expectations; with 7 billion humans living on the planet, what standards of living might each person reasonably expect (i.e. how many hot showers per week, per person).

Ross reports that his group found point 7 to include values and a vision; the rights of humans must be reflective of values, by necessity. They found separable the ideas of defining and defending inalienable rights. Proceeding to points 9 and 10, they wondered if point 7 encompassed both of these. Considering points 7 and 8, they group found a potential conflict: can you deliver results in point 7 without engaging in any violence? This bears further discussion on the question of liberties.

Chris reports that his group had similar thoughts on point 7 to many of those already mentioned. They considered it to be a values statement, but one that is necessarily tied to essential goals. They found two angles of approach to the point; one was in the context of the overall document and how this was an overarching issue. The other was to be found in this making a potentially great unifying statement of purpose for the movement – one necessarily tied directly to goals. The group mused on the subject of inalienable rights: what are they? They decided that it might be best to ask that question of the wider world in the form of a wiki or other open-source format. Finally, they favored the idea of quoting the Declaration of Independence and other historical documents as underpinning for this and other of our requests.

Meeting ends at 2:10p.m.

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