The 99% Declaration Working Group Minutes 01/06/2012

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The 99% Declaration Working Group Minutes
01/06/2012

THE 99% DECLARATION WORKING GROUP MEETING #2

 

Date/Time: 01/06/2012 3:30 PM

Location: Georges
Restaurant

Facilitators (F):
NONE

[Note from Minutes: These
minutes are condensed, as the meeting was long and contained off topic
banter.  Full audio is also present for
transparency.]

 

 

 

SUMMARY:

Members present:   Jondean W., Robert H., Jonathan S., Dan C.

AGENDA ITEM 1: Outreach and the NYC GA

JW – Two things that we need to work on, and that is
Outreach and the NYC GA. Since we’re the street team, because to give props to
Communications [PR] they do a great job of spreading the word out all over the
place, in terms of press releases, and things of that nature.  Kind of like, people on-line are doing a lot,
but we need to be doing something on the street, because these are the people
that we are trying to reach.  So, we need
to have something were we’re going out and actively talking to people….and we
need to conquer the NYC GA.

R – Do we need to?

JW – I think we really need to…for the reason of 1. The way
I envision explaining it to them is that we are laying the ground work for
you.  We’re here trying to help you
out.

R – So, we were talking about whether it’s necessary for us
to stay in compliance with the NYC GA.

D – I would say it would be extremely desirable.  And I would say that if Mr. Pollock continues
to open up his yapp, and gets the ire of the people there, they will come down
hard and say “these people don’t represent us.
They are frauds, they are phonies…we disavow them.”  And there would be a split.

[cross talk on how group is seen in the NYC GA]

 

AGENDA ITEM 2: Explanation of 99% Declaration Group Function

D – First of all, you have to repudiate the elections.  It’s created discord, and it should just be
repudiated.  Repudiating the idea that
there is going to be a third party, or elections of any kind.  I would say that since it’s not on the
immediate horizon, take it off the list entirely…repudiate it, we’re not doing
that now.

JS – I think this organization should be chartered to create
this system that we’re using now, to generate the body of Delegates, who will choose
and vote on the Declaration.  And then
this organization, except for a small watch group which is basically going to
stay active to see what happens, whether there’s the appropriate response to
this petition…the organization is going to shut down.  The Declaration group is going to have a
certain time that it stops basically, and the little watchdog group that will
stay active just to see the results, and at such a time if we find that nothing
happens, a new group will be founded.
Possibly, and most likely for legal reasons, not a non-for-profit.  A new group will be created, possibly from a
lot of the same existing sources, people, ideas, and constructs, but a new
group without the tax status that this group has.    And I
would like to see some language that really describes that this is a finite
group that performs a certain function, and then it stops.  That would very much address, and ameliorate
the problem where people are getting concerned that this group is tied to a
political agenda.

D – I think one thing
that should come out of this meeting is an intent to not go on forever, to
reach a goal, and then maybe just turn over the results to the General Assembly
and say “Here’s what we did.   Here’s
what we found out, and we’ve fulfilled our purpose.   I’m
going to propose that to the group right now, and I think it would be a good
chance to take a temp check.  Alright, we
have twinkles all around.

[uptwinkles]

[cross talk]

AGENDA ITEM 3: Minutes Recap

R – So, we can, I think, come to consensus about the end of
the meeting, and maybe do a recap and then move it on to the minutes.  It’s important for us to stay a part of the
NYC GA, and stay in compliance with the NYC GA, and we’re going to do
that.  We’re going to have the next
meeting at 60 Wall St.  And we’ve decided
it’s important for the 99 Declaration to have a beginning, a middle, and an end
to the non-for-profit organization.  And
our goal is to have at least 5 people at the meetings to stay in compliance
with the NYC GA.

[cross talk]

[uptwinkles]

AGENDA ITEM 4: Usage of Group
Name for Posts

JS – In all seriousness we should really cover this last
point.  Michael P. should be online as
Michael P., and speak.

R – He does have his own Facebook page, so he should just be
posting as Michael P.  Because, if he
were posting as a regular person, people wouldn’t feel as attacked.  It wouldn’t have as much power, as if he’s
posting as the leader of the organization.
When he posts as the 99% Declaration, he’s got a lot more power, and the
things he says affects people a whole lot more.

JS – Just as James writes whether it’s personal or admin,
Michael P. should use the same system that would also be more uniform.  We’d like to see that used by all admins, to
be used to identify if they are admins or not.

D – I propose a vote.
All administrators must, and they must agree, to only post as an
administrator when in they’re working in their official capacity to either
administer a group, or to post a document that expresses the official consensus
opinion of the group as a whole.  And
that administrators are allowed like any personality and citizen to express
their opinion, but not under the administrator sign on.  And then he needs to make it clear and
obvious to everyone when he’s acting as an administrator, and when he’s acting
on his own and expressing his own opinion.
[uptwinkles]

Meeting
concludes with an agreement to meet at 60 Wall St for next meeting.  R states that he will not be present for next
meeting.  Meeting is adjourned.

11 Responses to “The 99% Declaration Working Group Minutes 01/06/2012”

  1. Dan Chilton

    The topic of elections included talk of a third party, and the likely split vote in favor of the the party least favorable to OWS.
    This would be extremely counter productive.
    I want to make it clear that I’m not against anyone running for office.
    I think that 99D has a huge project and planning for elections would:
    be planning too far ahead, and
    would raise suspicions about 99D over reaching its mission.

    99D is attempting to do what a GA can’t do, represent the 99%.
    A Direct democracy of a few hundred can’t represent a few hundred million people, and
    a few hundred million are not going to hold a GA.
    So, as I see it 99D will be tasked with seeking out representation to present a list of grievances for redress.
    I hope that if all goes well, we’ll have done something historic, and
    OWS will have found a model of inspiring a group that is tasked with a mission that serves the movement in a very significant way and embodies the values that have made this movement so compelling.

    • David Mauriello

      Dan our plan, does not include becoming a third party. If and I only mean if, the petition is not redressed to our satisfaction, then we replace the politicians unwilling to help. One at a time, we run independent candidates, who pledge their solidarity to the petitions mission, and take over government ourselves. Legally.

  2. Robert Dinsmore

    You can’t do anything without demonstrating that you can follow through. The part in the 99%D about replacing congress if they do not address the grievances is necessary. And there is nothing about a 3rd party. The wording is as follows:

    We all know that it is very hard to actually get elected as a 3rd party or ind, so this leaves open the option to find candidates from either party who support these ideas.

    • Robert Dinsmore

      Sorry, this is the quote:

      6. If the grievances are not redressed to the satisfaction of the NGA, delegates reconvene to organize a new grassroots campaign for political candidates who publicly PLEDGE to redress the grievances. These candidates will seek election for all open Congressional seats in the mid-term election of 2014 and in the elections of 2016 and 2018.

      • Dan Chilton

        Okay then here’s where you part ways with some of the hard core GAs. Some are revolutionaries.
        They think that working within the system is a waste. I disagree, but I have a concern about making long range plans now, and what we’re going to do if.
        I see no benefit in deciding or declaring it now, instead of waiting.
        Declaring something now may seem like its more powerful, but IMO it is not.
        The uncertainty of the consequences can be more powerful than threatening something specific they can assess and plan for.
        And they’re WAY better at elections.

        Besides that, we don’t know if there will be a civil rights crack down and backlash that might require a re-evaluation of the situation.

        I would be happy if 99D just said that our response will be “proportional”.

  3. Paula Smith

    We’re working on it, Dan. Four adults at the last meeting and hopefully five or more this week. It’s hard since so many of us live elsewhere, but we’re trying.

  4. Jondean

    None of that will matter if the Minutes from the last meeting are not posted ASAP….

    • Dan Chilton

      I don’t have notes or the audio recording…
      Who should be expected to do it?

  5. David Gilbert

    OWS Needs Direction! 10 Core Ideas All OWS Members Can Rally Around

    1. A constitutional amendment reversing the Supreme Court’s bizarre rulings that under the First Amendment money is speech and corporations are people.

    2. Real campaign finance reform with public financing of federal elections.

    3. End gerrymandering by politicians and turn over redistricting to citizen committees.

    4. Reduce financial risks to society by breaking up the biggest banks. Reenact Glass-Steagall. Abolish credit default swaps. Derivatives must be traded on transparent exchanges. Ban “flash” trading.

    5. A ten-year federal program that creates over 30 million jobs rebuilding America that includes new infrastructure, a new national power grid and clean energy initiatives. Pay for it by taxing all Wall St. financial transactions at 1% raises $400 billion a year.

    6. To create a living wage will require generous tax credits for low earners, a higher minimum wage, and guaranteed health care so that wages are not consumed by medical costs. Pay for it by ending the war in Afghanistan and reducing military spending.

    7. Create a progressive federal tax code where the marginal tax rate is raised to 50 percent on income between $500,000 and $5 million, 60 percent on income between $5 million and $15 million, and 70 percent on income over $15 million. There should be a 2 percent annual surtax on all fortunes over $7 million. The estate tax should be 55 percent and kicks in after $5 million. Capital gains should be taxed at 35 percent. End the home mortgage deduction on first homes over $1 million. End the home mortgage deduction on all second homes. Corporations should be taxed by a variable amount based on the percentage of their payroll going to US workers. Eliminate corporate loopholes, unfair tax breaks, exemptions and deductions, subsidies, end offshore tax haven abuse.

    8. Create better schools by properly compensating effective teachers. We should draw teachers from the top 10 percent of college graduates. Teachers should study education at government expense and receive strong professional support throughout their careers. Advocate universal prekindergarten, full-day kindergarten and extending the school day and school year.

    9. Protect the environment by STRICTLY enforcing the Clean Air Act.

    10. Enhance personal freedoms by repealing the Patriot Act.