The 99% Declaration Working Group Minutes
THE 99% DECLARATION WORKING GROUP MEETING #2
Date/Time: 01/06/2012 3:30 PM
[Note from Minutes: These
minutes are condensed, as the meeting was long and contained off topic
banter. Full audio is also present for
Members present: Jondean W., Robert H., Jonathan S., Dan C.
AGENDA ITEM 1: Outreach and the NYC GA
JW – Two things that we need to work on, and that is
Outreach and the NYC GA. Since we’re the street team, because to give props to
Communications [PR] they do a great job of spreading the word out all over the
place, in terms of press releases, and things of that nature. Kind of like, people on-line are doing a lot,
but we need to be doing something on the street, because these are the people
that we are trying to reach. So, we need
to have something were we’re going out and actively talking to people….and we
need to conquer the NYC GA.
R – Do we need to?
JW – I think we really need to…for the reason of 1. The way
I envision explaining it to them is that we are laying the ground work for
you. We’re here trying to help you
R – So, we were talking about whether it’s necessary for us
to stay in compliance with the NYC GA.
D – I would say it would be extremely desirable. And I would say that if Mr. Pollock continues
to open up his yapp, and gets the ire of the people there, they will come down
hard and say “these people don’t represent us.
They are frauds, they are phonies…we disavow them.” And there would be a split.
[cross talk on how group is seen in the NYC GA]
AGENDA ITEM 2: Explanation of 99% Declaration Group Function
D – First of all, you have to repudiate the elections. It’s created discord, and it should just be
repudiated. Repudiating the idea that
there is going to be a third party, or elections of any kind. I would say that since it’s not on the
immediate horizon, take it off the list entirely…repudiate it, we’re not doing
JS – I think this organization should be chartered to create
this system that we’re using now, to generate the body of Delegates, who will choose
and vote on the Declaration. And then
this organization, except for a small watch group which is basically going to
stay active to see what happens, whether there’s the appropriate response to
this petition…the organization is going to shut down. The Declaration group is going to have a
certain time that it stops basically, and the little watchdog group that will
stay active just to see the results, and at such a time if we find that nothing
happens, a new group will be founded.
Possibly, and most likely for legal reasons, not a non-for-profit. A new group will be created, possibly from a
lot of the same existing sources, people, ideas, and constructs, but a new
group without the tax status that this group has. And I
would like to see some language that really describes that this is a finite
group that performs a certain function, and then it stops. That would very much address, and ameliorate
the problem where people are getting concerned that this group is tied to a
D – I think one thing
that should come out of this meeting is an intent to not go on forever, to
reach a goal, and then maybe just turn over the results to the General Assembly
and say “Here’s what we did. Here’s
what we found out, and we’ve fulfilled our purpose. I’m
going to propose that to the group right now, and I think it would be a good
chance to take a temp check. Alright, we
have twinkles all around.
AGENDA ITEM 3: Minutes Recap
R – So, we can, I think, come to consensus about the end of
the meeting, and maybe do a recap and then move it on to the minutes. It’s important for us to stay a part of the
NYC GA, and stay in compliance with the NYC GA, and we’re going to do
that. We’re going to have the next
meeting at 60 Wall St. And we’ve decided
it’s important for the 99 Declaration to have a beginning, a middle, and an end
to the non-for-profit organization. And
our goal is to have at least 5 people at the meetings to stay in compliance
with the NYC GA.
AGENDA ITEM 4: Usage of Group
Name for Posts
JS – In all seriousness we should really cover this last
point. Michael P. should be online as
Michael P., and speak.
R – He does have his own Facebook page, so he should just be
posting as Michael P. Because, if he
were posting as a regular person, people wouldn’t feel as attacked. It wouldn’t have as much power, as if he’s
posting as the leader of the organization.
When he posts as the 99% Declaration, he’s got a lot more power, and the
things he says affects people a whole lot more.
JS – Just as James writes whether it’s personal or admin,
Michael P. should use the same system that would also be more uniform. We’d like to see that used by all admins, to
be used to identify if they are admins or not.
D – I propose a vote.
All administrators must, and they must agree, to only post as an
administrator when in they’re working in their official capacity to either
administer a group, or to post a document that expresses the official consensus
opinion of the group as a whole. And
that administrators are allowed like any personality and citizen to express
their opinion, but not under the administrator sign on. And then he needs to make it clear and
obvious to everyone when he’s acting as an administrator, and when he’s acting
on his own and expressing his own opinion.
concludes with an agreement to meet at 60 Wall St for next meeting. R states that he will not be present for next
meeting. Meeting is adjourned.