This is a skeleton document–each participant is invited to fill in their name and any missing points as desired.
Valeria (sp?) and Sam
Scott – Stack taker
Stefan – Time keeper
3 visitors from Cincinnatti, one from Kingston NY one from Oakton VA
3 Proposals to be considered after routine business
01 Promoting General Assembly process for all levels of government (Valeria)
02 Promoting 99% candidates for offices at all levels (Zach)
03 Considering & Disseminating for Consideration by All Occupy Groups, Electoral Reform Act of 2012 (Robert)
27 October minutes summarized with three highlights
01 Experimenting with an alternative system of voting
02 Creating a viral campaign to call for a Constitutional Convention
03 Elevating Electoral Reform proposal to General Assembly
Cinninatti visitors invited to comment, Tyron speaking
+ Attended facilitation meeting, NY P&ER agenda inclusion of electoral reform peaked interest, attending weekly meeting as observers
Kingston visitor (Valeria) commented
+ Kingston includes Woodstock, striving to do outreach events, self as write-in candidate for County Executive, campaigning on platform of bringing General Assembly into County Executive. Coordinating with Occupy Albany that works in a 100 mile radius [or diameter?]. Support taking money out of the Bank of America.
Tim – Voting experiment: plurality voting is the norm, but has ingrained a two-party state [there are 65 parties in the USA]. Alternative voting is superior but no one has tested. Seeking IPad as a voting bookth, software being written.
Tim – Electoral reform: two page summary of group’s reflections and specifics handed out, copied faithfully from Tim’s Pad document
Comment made that indigo ink available and could be used to enable anonymous voting.
Strong comment made against anonymous voting. (Valeria)
Comment made that there are more than one documents stemming from prior electoral reform discussions, need to consolidate. Tim accepted role as consolidator [includes Robert's submission, last item of business below]
Viral campaign [Jesse]: Online forum is where most of the ideas are developing. Congress is what is broken and therefore the people need to demand an outside Constitutional Convention to change Congress. There is a clear division within OWS between anarchists who want nothing to do with any government, and reformists who want to restore the Republic. Call for a Constitutional Convention is first step toward addressing grievances. While there is concern that it could become a “runaway” convention, this is considered moot as the process will temper all propositions. Have drafted a mission statement. Question remains: what would a viral campaign look like?
Concern expressed over Google groups as a medium of exchange.
PROPOSAL [Scott]: To create a subgroup to clarify process for the working group. P&ER is a key group, how P&ER does business could impact on all of OWS and send a very clear message on new protocols for direct democracy. Posting living document has been helpful in garnering inputs and allowing for sequential organization.
+ Everyone needs to understand the facilitation process. Always ask yourself, what is the good of this for the group, for the movement? It is a new way of relating. (Valeria?)
+ Need online process, most of the work is done online. (Stefan, Sam, others)
+ Need to leave process open but orient newcomers so they are constructive vice destructive.
+ Real concern over newcomers or occasional participants exercising a blocking function, unwarranted or excessive negative influence.
+ There is a proposal online for how to deal with this, will be presented at next meeting.
+ [Tim]: Online should be totally open but one should be physically present to present a proposal or to take part is direct discussion and decisions.
+ Question remains, how to give voice to online proposals where the person is not physcially present.
PROPOSAL: (Valeria) Promoting GA in Government at All Levels. What is happening now is what happened when previous generations left feudalism. We are leaving corporate feudalism. We get better as we go. World Social Forum is an example, first US national social forum in Chicago, 25,000 attended, idea is to go from local to national to global social forums. Major shift in how we are relating as people. This proposal calls for GA to be implemented at all levels of government across all issues, while also proposing that we support candidates (of any party affiliation) who commit to making this part of their platform. GA makes people more cooperative, more engaged.
HUGE IMPORTANT QUOTE: “Leaderless society is a society where all people are leaders.”
Comment: NY State Assembly up for re-election in 2012.
Comment: Interest in forming a new national party to field candidates in 2012.
Stack: Proposal for a national GA is from the 99% declaration, idea is to form a new / alternative government.
+ Cincinnati politics party is part hurdles and real.
+ Need candidates in multiple states to be considered a national party.
+ Need direct democracy candidates
+ Need cohesion in national GA ideas
+ Need system for developing strategy and new system ideas
+ Need outreach to 99% Declaration Working Group from P&ER
+ Need to give voters good options, not just the two-party options
+ Occupy the Ballot web site worth a look. (Zach)
+ Comment [Tim]: No real need for a new party, just encourage candidates of any party willing to adopt the GA philosophy.
+ Need to try to find unity amidst all the ideas
Zack will do the 99% platform for GA
PROPOSAL: (Zach) – Promoting 99% candidates for offices at all levels
consensus to start subgroup combining this proposal with Valeria’s and other’s related.
PROPOSAL: Recommended draft statement of demand and draft Electoral Reform Act of 2012 presented in hand-out form. Robert’s presentation recorded with consent of group (no one else in the film) and will be posted shortly. Robert is taking this concept to all Occupy groups but will defer to NYC GA if they choose to establish their own combination and then promulgate to all other Occupy groups.
Karen: Most ballot laws are state-based. Robert: this is understood. This is why OWS has to have a national, state, and local system for exerting pressure.
Summary of Commitments
Robert: Minutes by midnight