Minutes April 26th

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V&G Minutes

 04/26/ 2012


Meeting convened at 6:24


In attendance:

Lisa – mins.

Djorje – Facil.

Noz – stck




Scott – stck



Michael H.


Agenda items:

clarify the concept of values

establish our values 

How we do it – the goals and the statement of purpose



Lisa explained the concept and function of common values:

The Values describe what the moral principles and beliefs or accepted standards of our group are.  The common values and our statement of purpose are the criteria for which all decisions are made.  We make 2 lists; one is for values we need and the other is for values we want.  We do this as individuals and then we look at the common values.  After we have compiled our values then we can give a sentence for each about what they mean to us.  This will be added to, to reflect the most current thinking.



Next item: Values





intellectual integrity 









striving to understand all perspectives


generosity of spirit  



respect for the process 

value -based consensus 


safe space 

ethno/gender/age/class sensitivity 




proactive research 


radical conceptualism 



logical/ valid analysis




Tony – gender sensitivity is missing

Djorje – should make core values and then a sub set of values

Freddy – how does it work itself out

Lisa  – we will do need and want distinctions

Tony  – we need to write a sentence  that these are core values & sub values

Bill asked about police, in terms of values like non violence – doesn’t agree w/ Anarchists breaking windows

Lisa said that the values will get fleshed out through our definitions and conversations – we have to be on the same page w/o misunderstandings


Next item: Outreach/ Purpose Statement



Lisa – State of Purp.  should reflect the decentralized and autonomous nature that truly reflects the spirit of OWS – not insisting on an outdated sense of unity

Scott – I am in the middle – I can see benefit of showing a unified one and a decentralized on. 

Scott – everything is situational, it’s too soon to figure out the Outreach 

Lisa  – statement of purpose is not done – we need to show more about authentic ‘unframing’

Bill – agrees – you can be moderate and radical and have an impact – change the perspective of what unity means

Marie – offensive what Bill said earlier – it’s a myth about Anarchists only being violent – diversity of tactics has produced real results  – there is a long history with the effectiveness of DoT – I am for non-violence, myself

Freddy – understands #D31 action – but are we violent?

Tony –  Oakland was violent

Marie – in a diversity of tactics movement – property damage can be successful – doing outreach can go both ways educating them

Djorje – this convo is what i wanted to do – we can have real dialogue now – it’s important

Lisa – keep focus on WG it is easy to start talking about OWS but we have to focus on V&G WG

Bill –  showing a better way to show society – bring his experiences

Michael H – it’s important to support our movement – we are OWS

Lisa – this is not outward-facing but at the same time it is because more people will join Djorje – Not a watchdog – not speaking for OWS – we can talk about goals  taken from the V.S – image, actions, info harvesting, outreach table, discussions and dialogue

Tony – talk to occupiers in a non-official way – as occupiers get a feel

Lisa – actions, outreach, just for us  –  it is for for OWS now

Freddy -we don’t speak to each other – outreach as group to other working groups

Marie – wow – this is great

Djorje – we should talk about how to do it – if we want to goals we have to make it exciting – be more in the 

presence of the community

Scott –  goals in discussion

Djorje – we don’t interview ourselves in OWS – use  creative actions to gather content- we need discussions – it is our process – I want to make a proposal to discuss goals

Lisa – must talk about process first and use process for discussion of goals.  We should make agenda items for next meeting at the close of each meeting and then I can send info on list serve.

Djorje – Do we want to work on statement of purpose?

Group – next meeting!


Bill will facilitate on Saturday

Lisa will bottom-line email the agenda




Value-Based Consensus teach in 

Practice VBC on Vision Statement for Goals categories

Statement of Purpose – further discussion 


Meeting adjourned at 8:20 pm


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