V&G Minutes
o4/17/12
Atrium
Meeting convened at 6:10 pm
In attendance:
Felicia
Lisa
Djorje
Tony
Naz
Ray
Jordan
Cynthia
Facilitation for next meeting – Djorje
Agenda:
A 3 day festival – no technology – Woodstock – 1
Value-Based Consensus/Purpose – 2
Objectives from the current V.S – 3
Item 1
Stack:
Djorje suggested that Felicia speak to DA, and there is an Occupy album, there is a lot of music in Occupy.
Tony - said to go to P.R. WG
Lisa suggested WGs and to become a part of community and give yourself a lot of time.
Item 2
Stack:
Djorje explained what VBC is.
Lisa thinks we should do it at least twice to get more participation. What is our purpose?
Djorje - we are describing the world we want and how to get there
Felicia - purpose = organizing ideas into a accessible doc -
values = accessibility, organization
Tony - establish a path to get to the end point. Vision = end point Goals = the way we get to endpoint.
Lisa -
Djorje - purpose = to define the nature of the world we want to live in and how we want to get there.
values = open inquiry
non-combativeness
open paradigm for optimal solutions for OWS and the world
positive idea flow
organization
discussion
Lisa – purpose = V&G is an inquiry, conversation, and action as an archive of thought.
values:
organization
open-mindedness
curiosity
educational
Informational blather:
Naz - finds it confusing because the goals are so different within the community – how can we get one statement?
Tony - we must go to the GA with an open mind but lead them to work together – not ask.
Tony - academics are so corporatized - best to find someone who is outside the system, not attached – no one can be an individual
Jordan - community art is the same all art must be in the system already
Lisa - national gallery – trustees who decide what art America see because they have money
Tony - Disciplined Minds – a book to read
Lisa - everything in the world is polluted by rich dudes making money – everything
Djorje - everything points to profit – as V&G we can have this conversation within OWS
Tony - it’s easy to get rid of that – all companies can be worker-owned
Tony - governments are in place for control. U.S. does it by food supply – the energy source.
Cynthia – they took control of Jamaica through the food – rice.
Tony - don’t patent life – this changed under Reagan
Tony - the system controls everything – manipulate to think they are helping you – they say unemployment is a handout – not true – you and employer pay for it – it is your money
Cynthia - self-sufficiency is the enemy of the system
Tony - at Zuccotti the bikes were a threat – then we were evicted 1 week after the bikes got there
TV, media, gaming are distractions from the corrupt system.
We could make an Occupy Video Game – using a community, skill shares – get points for it.
Meeting adjourned at 7:50