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Coordinators’ Meeting Minutes 1/11/12

January 12, 2012 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

OWS Working Group Coordinators Meeting 1/11/12  10-11 AM, 60 Wall St., NY, NY

Liberty Square is Accessible for the 1st Time Since November 15, 2011 (Thank you NYCLU!)

REPORT-BACKS

Organization WG – Meeting Wed, Jan 11, 8 PM, 60 Wall St.

Group is compiling list of Projects, Working Groups working on projects and outside allies – to be made public, online and print.

Visions/Goals – Meeting 5:30 PM Wed., Jan 11, 60 Wall St.  – getting close to a ‘vision statement’

Movement building/Outreach – looking at a process for a convention in Philadelphia

Interoccupy calls are happening regularly

visiting different GAs in NYC area (visited Jersey City – meet Tues/Thurs), helping them craft community agreements

helping the Sunset Park MLK events (with flyer)

Education/Outreach

coordinating on March 1 student events

working on model for teach-ins (looking for locations, interested professors)

Housing

flavor changed in last 48 hours – residents taking more responsibility

Medical – goals changed in the last 24 hours J

Puppet Guild – going to Grant’s Tomb, Upper West Side, NYC for Monday, Jan 15 and to Occupy Congress in DC next week

The Solutions Clearinghouse – a new working group, meeting Sunday, 1/14/12 at 5 PM. 60 Wall S.

Direct Action – subgroup, RADA (Random Autonomous Direct Action) is planning activities against SOPA, efforts to get allies to defeat the internet-restricting bill; THIS BILL CAN BE DEFEATED!

Infohub – Meeting Thursday, 1/12/12, 6 PM, 60 Wall St.

ANY FLYERS NEEDED TO BE PRINTED, PLS SEND TO PRINT@NYCGA.NET

Also, want to plan parties – FUN –for folks who work hard on actions, to celebrate!

Occupy Fashion – A BIG Event planned for Sat., Jan 28 from 3-6 PM, with NYCLU – A Fashion Show to expose police abuses.  Judson Church haw donated space, models (of all body types) are volunteering their time.  OWS Puppets and other amazing graphics will fill the church, 50% of the proceeds go to OWS.  Need volunteers to help make this event work. Bill at Williambuster63@gmail.com to volunteer

Tech – Trainings for People’s News Wire offered; scheduled for every Monday (see NYCGA.net).  Close to public release.

looking to aggregate feeds from InterOccupy, tag them, release to public.  NEED ‘corps of curators’.

planning ‘Reuters-style’ news serverice – news.occupy.net.

bringing (hopefully) ‘Freeedom Tower’ back to Liberty Square for plugging in, charging, etc.

writing (with community’s assistance) web policies, like privacy and proper use policies for any lists collected, etc.

check out tech@nycga.net blog for more info

AGENDA – 3 Items Selected: Status of Liberty Sq., Parties, Consensus Process

Agenda #1 – Still some ambiguity about the ‘rules’ in the newly un-barricaded Liberty Square.

Teddy from Housing reported that food was initially allowed last night to be served in the park (Kitchen! rocks!),  but then when West Park Church volunteers  brought an early breakfast of coffee/tea, hot oatmeal and ramen noodles( THANK YOU), we were told to serve outside park, and people could eat inside.

CONSENSUS THAT WE MUST BE ‘REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES

Agenda #2 – Parties and more fun needed after Days of Action

looking for venues (cheap or donated?) and mucis/DJs, etc. == dance parties at first.  Music Working Group supports.

Agenda #3  – Consensus process

lively discussion around Mark Read’s article about consensus vs. votingwhich is more democractic?

slaves to the process’ , need ‘education, not orientation,’ consensus means ‘not getting exactly what you want’ must acknowledge that we ‘break process all the time, but usually to accommodate Unreasonable people while we should be allowing voices who might not know the ‘process’ –- one idea: open one G.A. meeting to other forms of ‘consensus’ decisionmaking, e.g. Native American, African-American, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Coordinators Meeting Minutes 1/9/2012

January 10, 2012 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Josh, Diego, Ravi, Zach, other occupier, Christine

Discussions
- Community survey of when we should start a re-occupation; some brainstorming about more exact language
- WOW caucus resolution in Spokes Friday night
- Update on CiviCRM development- we’re basically starting from scratch to build a serious plan for development with a local firm that specializes

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Coordinators Meeting Minutes 1/6/2012

January 6, 2012 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

WORKING GROUP COORDINATORS MEETING 1/06/12
60 Wall Street 10 – 11 AM

REPORT-BACKS
PR – Press releases and interview requests should go to press@occupywallst.org..
Coverage was good for NDAA actions Wednesday at NYPL and Grand Central.
Encourage advance notice of upcoming events for PR planning and to ensure
releases go out in timely fashion.

D.A. – Thursday’s meeting was ‘huge’ – DA meets six times/week now; Sunday 2-
6PM meeting (location TBA, possibly 16 Beaver)
Facilitation – Meeting 3 times/week
Archives – Presenting budget Monday at Spokes

D.A. Subgroup on Nigeria – Solidarity action being planned nationally and
internationally for 1/11/12 in support of five Occupy cities in Nigeria; Occupy
Oakland coordinating U.S. effort. Read the rest of this entry →

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Coordinators Meeting Minutes 1/4/2012

January 4, 2012 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

January 4, 2012

Co-ordinators’ Meeting, 10:00 am

60 Wall Street Atrium

Reportbacks

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Coordinators’ Meeting Minutes 11/21/2011

November 21, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes, Uncategorized

Co-ordinators’ Meeting Minutes

21 November 2011

60 Wall Street Atrium, NYC

Agenda: rather than follow a formal agenda, we’ll just go around and do reportbacks today. Read the rest of this entry →

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Coordinators’ Meeting Minutes 11/14/2011

November 14, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Co-ordinators’ Meeting minutes

14 November 2011, 9:00 am

60 Wall Street, Atrium

 

 

Announcement:

7 pm meeting at the Tree of Life re: expansion into other public areas. moving from Tree to triangle park near Blarney Stone.

 

Report backs:

PR: concern about people who aren’t on site or in meetings are trying to represent the group.

Alternative Currency: wants to move forward so it leads to more participation.

Security/Safety concern: Community Alliance is connected to the Nietas

 

more Kitchen (José): working on getting another kitchen set up in downtown Brooklyn. we’ve got a plumber, electrician & carpenter building out the site

 

Town Planning: organizational issues. enforcement of spaces (eg: flowerbeds, fire egresses) our only option right now is to pester people. they want to go to GA for consensus on generator. they are laying out cabling in the park. discussion is not whether we should have a generator, but abt cabling in a safe manner. implementation of tents: what groups in what order. we need a solidified process to prevent a free-for-all.

 

Library (Betsy): the library now has a schedule–it’s open from 10 am to 1am. We’re looking to initiate new programs and need contacts in Education & Empowerment as well as Inreach.

 

Working Space Affinity Group (Greg): The occupied office—workspace, support and services for OWS working groups @ 50 Broadway. To get access email occupiedoffice AT gmail DOT com

 

Pierre wants to meet with small business/entrepreneurs.

 

Food & Water (Eric): needs volunteers to get to Brooklyn and cook & come back to the park, at least 7 people. Details of kitchens, their facilities, accessible hours

 

Agenda

  • Need for communication about the office
  • Children living on site/drug use
  • Expansion

CHILDREN/DRUGS/SECURITY

-big security concerns: children living in tents in known drug/gang areas. Security’s name change to Community Alliance. Nietas & history of organized crime. They now have a vote in spokescouncil. These syndicates give and give, embed themselves in organizations then comes the time for payback. Is this good for our movement? organized crime helped unions. They’re very involved, messaging for their own cause in prisons, in other cities. they can bring down a whole movement and destroy everything.

 

-lots of claims in that statement. ans what’s the validity. they have representation on spokes?

 

-they’ve become security for the park. we have gangs doing security for the park.

 

-lots of people are watching security, like civil defense. there’s enough people who won’t let that occur.

 

-what you’re saying is probably accurate. I wouldn’t support mafia/gangs but it’s moot because security has become community alliance and there’s been a shift. there’s much less involvement from those groups. you are accurate and we should be concerned.

 

-the point about children. there were social workers in the park and folks from churches for children and runaways in co-ordination with the medics on Sunday doing an assessment, especially on the West end of the park.

 

-what happens with the assessment?

 

-there will be reportbacks. they may be obligated to report their findings to the police, but it should not disrupt the park.

 

OFFICE SPACE

workspace affinity group works autonomously . UFT building space donated by anonymous donor. guidelines for space use on nycga.net for office-oriented groups that need secure office space. we’ve been piloting our program for the past week. today we open to offer to other WGs with demonstrated need. capacity is 48 people at a time due to fire code. we want to staff it with office oriented group leading to a co-operative group. contacts = George & Bianca.

a democratically run space in process. right now groups in the space are Media, Tech, Outreach, Info, PR, Finance & Movement Building.

 

Enter the process to be part of the collective. not an internet cafe it’s there for work & collaboration. 36 workstations, 3 meeting rooms, and a conference room. Not equipped for large meetings. In the evening we prioritize larger meetings.

 

-can we see it?

 

-we encourage buy in—this is a limited resource that needs orientation etc. get in touch, begin the process

 

-is more space coming?

 

-this is the space we have now. but permabank is negotiating, they’ll be donating piecemeal. this is the only OWS space. we’ve got a process for people to enter the space and for allocation. we’re doing our best.

 

EXPANSION

We’ve outgrown Liberty Park but can’t abandon it. in the spirit of Occupy Everywhere. it’s be a good morale booster. small meeting tonight at 7 pm @ Tree of Life

 

-is expansion a work group?/it’s an affinity group

 

-anyone with DA project should go to DA. I’ve heard lots of talk but no cohesive vision. we’ve outgrown our space. horizontal growth vs. vertical growth. LP= our billboard, our media brand. that’s what the world sees. We’re concerned about the message we’ve been spreading. Horizontal expansion, I agree would be a huge morale boost, we need that. logistical support? can you get consensus? can you move to a new spot? how many organizers will you take with you?

-LP as co-inhabited: the movement, people involved in political message and a whole bunch of other people with no involvement who think they’re being supportive by being there. I want to reinforce the integrity of the movement rather than trying to expand.

 

-what happened with Occupy Central Park, Brooklyn, Bronx, Occupy Your Block? is there any co-ordination going on between these efforts?

 

-those are autonomous actions. co-ordination will happen.

 

-inreach is about politicizing occupants

-we are inclusive everybody who wants to be in the movement is in the movement. we don’t have to give our time and energy to whoever’s in our space. we don’t have to give our resources to whoever stands around.

 

-I want to see public spaces occupied around the world. everything everywhere.

 

-something else needs to happen. the park is important regarding media etc. there’s symbolism but it’s lost some of its glitter. my concern—other occupations have split for ideological reasons. expansion could cause that to happen. worried about losing unity. divide and conquer. abandoning people who lack know-how. a lot of people have bad issues in the park.

 

Break out groups

 

End of meeting

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Coordinators Meeting Minutes 11/13/2011

November 12, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

INTRODUCTIONS/REPORT-BACKS

Jose

Simon

Gail, Kitchen – breakfast & point person – offsite kitchen closed for 3 days, trying to reduce onsite kitchen budget, eliminating onsite kitchen budget. They want to reduce the budget for lunch & dinner; not clear where that money will go.

Max, Organization –

Max, also Town Planning –

Debbie – working with health people; interested in issues of sustainability; relationship between OWS people and the people living in the park.

George, kitchen & library -

Daniel,

Eric, Food – working on restructuring the kitchen; many emergency meetings lately; we’re at risk of losing our offsite kitchen; we lost our van. This is largely due to people getting burnout & leaving & no one knowing what they were supposed to be doing.

Ryan, Alternative Currency – pressure coming from existing power structures that’s resistant to developing alternative currency. Waiting for camp to grow towards tipping point at which we’re ready to do something about it.

Bill, press – no report-back

Sophie, trainings – we have a bunch of trainings in the works; not very many of them have taken off yet. Hopefully this week, a consent class, an orientation training, and a self-defense.

 

AGENDA ITEMS

Kitchen

Town Planning

Kitchen

Eric: things are kind of falling apart due to lack of communication between off-site & on-site kitchen operations. We’ve discussed reducing it to two meals but have not . We are being audited by Finance. We spent 40-something thousand dollars. Financial officers are burning out & no one knows exactly what they did. We have food rotting in a kitchen; all we have to do is get volunteers out there & cook it. Assuming we don’t lose the kitchen, we’ll get people over there, start cooking the food. New systems proposed; there’s a meeting at the kitchen at 3:30 to address these issues.

Gail: we  have a budget of 2,000 / day. In the past, there was no offsite budget, because everything was donated. Of that $2,000 / day, I can account for $1,000 of that & I don’t know where the rest of it went. They want to restructure the budget: onsite, offsite, and projects. Our main concern should be this site & we shouldn’t be extending ourselves too thin anywhere else.

Eric: Our budget is only $2,000/day on weekends.

Gail: I think cancelling hot breakfast is a big deal. Should we be cutting back on services? I think we have the money for these things; and we’re spending the food offsite.

Eric: We serve food until there are no more volunteers awake to serve it.

Gail: We pay for catering for eggs & home fries. I don’t know where the rest of that 48000 comes from.

Eric: Chinese food, etc.

Gail: We’re ordering Chinese food & then people don’t eat the offsite food & we throw it out.

Kitchen: we had some

Daniel: the reason the kitchen decided to close down during the night is security & that’s still an issue. It’s cold enough at night these days that we don’t need refrigeration overnight. There’s no reason to throw anything out. We should be serving oatmeal & rice & beans every day, because it’s cheap.

Ryan: We have a lot of non-participants here.  When we’re ready to direct resources to people who are participating…

Architects & Town Planning

Max: We

Eric: two things regarding Town Planning – I want to build chicken coops in the trees so we have eggs. Trying to make that happen, perhaps in Spring. We need a safe place to have sex. We should have a tent for that purpose.

Gail: Need communal space for eating.

Panda: Chicken shit?

Jose: Architects working on modular bunk-bed/table/work-bench/storage units.

Gail: We’re having a lot of problems with sharing in the kitchen.

Feedback for Kitchen

More accountability & audit

No need for all-night food

More control of the back space

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Coordinators Minutes 11/9/2011

November 10, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

11/9/11
megan facilitator from kitchen
kitchen is revamping kitchen focus on cooking instead of relying on
catering and trying to get a bus.
Katherine- what kitchen being utilized currently. East and flatbush
soup kitchens
currently looking for a more a permanent situation, current
Betsy from Library,new branch at the Tree of Life.  Books keep
disappearing but they keep restocking
Paul- from sanitation just observing
Ryan from PR- needs more feedback from other groups. however it takes
Evangelina from outreach
Jose just observing
Josh from comfort and they have a meeting at SIS 11/9/11 tonight,
comfort outreach program, possibly working with community watch,
proactive approach to fulfill needs. meeting at 8p at SIS
Nicholas, Tea and Herbal medicine group, ideally we could all be
drinking tea right now, just observing meeting
Jez no reprot back
Anatoli just observing, he’s from sweden, travelling different occupations
Katherine with facilitation and Occupy Dignity, last night CT Butler
from FNB had teach in on model of consensus, he’ll back after
Thanksgiving.  Occupy Dignity new working group, dignity in the park.
Meeting at 11 am in Atrium.
Eric with Food and Water,
solicitating donations. $20, 00 Earthlust sending stainless steel water bottles
Nathan, Info and SIS just observing
Jeff previously with Tents, taking over Town Planning, 6pm meeting at
Atrium. Keep meeting shorts. 30 minutes, tents and people same page.
Stop gap proposal keeping people from being moved. Currently no tents
to be put up. taking 2 days for mechanism of emminent domain and plan
for which tents going up next and which working group.
If working group wants tents come to meeting
Clarifying questions, is working group being asked. Library had
structure, that’s being taken down.
Jeff, since group defunct, it is being restructured.
Beth from press, good stories needed, always at press table, she deals
with corporate owned media, so unless we provided good stories
Drew with Tech: make sure events are up to date on website. Tech is
working on news and aggregation system, so all diff news feeds are
current. need people to sanitize data.
Randall with outhreach , creating data bank system for educational info.
Gypsy plan in place with all human agreement, very hostile
Agenda Points:
*concerned about violence, we hand to police or we allow violent peoples to stay
*mark areas where people have moved to clear out assembly area
*should weather be discussed in preparation for the snow
Ryan: lack of enforcement of violence, thievery
 comments from group:   certain individuals can’t coop situation,
trying to deescalate
ostericisms are a form a violence, because it isn’t consensus, music can heal.
community watch/security/alliance should attend meetings to help with
this.  Security needs ideas.
Several specific situations were given, however some system of
deciding who should be in who should be out.
we are all part of community watch.  We see something say something.
If you’re not involved in a scene where perhaps it’s not a crucial
situation, don’t give it attention and it helps diffuse situation.
Ostercism is only way to maintain anarchist system because we don’t
want the police involved and if you are racist, then you cannot stay,
for example.
Mention how Direct Action provides nonviolent action, that may assist
in dealing with situations.
Difference in ideals doesn’t qualify to kick someone out.  More
experimentation on buddying up with these individuals.
Next Topic:
In Reach: Proposal going to be taken to Spokes. We need to engage
people.  We need our common area back, the problem is how to implement
is to mark areas with red tape when someone moves tent, to start
blocking space, to open up the assembly area. one by one, dialogue,
with community about opening up assembly area, and helping people to
move to new areas.
idea of reorganizing, there are quite a few tents that are just taking
up space, perhaps just a tent check to see how much free space there
actually is.
some ideas that tents are not needed and we don’t need tents to live.
hypothermia isn’t an option, tents are needed
consensus idea is why not create sections where people can do where
people can do what they want,since we don’t want to remove people.
Point of Process, not relevant point
Bridges need to be built on bringing people together to sustain
community by group tents vs 2 people per tent in personal tent.
Point of Information: we have a form where we pass around to park,
census form. specifics to keep clusters that already exist.  Town
planning not trying to remove people, trying to be respectful, but
they are trying best they can, hopefully process can be smoother.
Small tents not engineered to last during winter.
Tape idea is a problem because someone may mark and not return and
people will create tense situations.
Break out groups on this since meeting time is over.

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Coordinators Meeting Minutes 11/7/2011

November 7, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

REPORT BACKS

 

Josh – comfort – still some political power problems in comfort

Evan – open source – issue w/ generators: we have a fire egress issue.

Kirill Ravensong – starting new group – moving housing off-site

Max – facilitation – getting more people coming & getting trained; it’s awesome.

Luke – Media is undergoing mediation; PR wants input from everyone, so they know what’s going on in the park, so when press comes, they can give good answers.

Lori – Organization (Tu&Th @ the Atrium) – still working on office project.

Hall – Liaison btwn Architects & Town Planning

John Marko – grad student doing project on OWS

Stefan – structure (6pm @ the Atrium, but not always) – still waiting for official word on space for Spokes Council; we have a potential space @ a high-school but not a definitive answer. The address is 411 Pearl Street. We’re also looking for alt. backup spaces. If you haven’t heard the confirmed loc, go to the info desk & they’ll have the answer.

Julian – outreach (M,T,Th @ 6:30 @ 52 Broadway) – This weekend, Occupy Your Block: occupy your block however you want to; starting teach-ins via churches, etc. Community Relations doing a small-biz event & services at local congregations.

James – organization – working w/ internet to develop tools for groups to share docs, names, etc.

Evangelina – Meetup for all the GAs from all the borroughs, about Occupy Your Block & to help them build up their structure.

Jose – I bring food to Coordinators’ Meeting; also having inter-cultural music & dance

NVC mediation; doing trainings & Community Watch. Texting network

Eric – food (everyday @ 5:15 @ The Atrium) – yesterday was 1st day of the new delivery system; we fed over 300 people.

Eric (also reporting for) Water – looking for space for winterizing our water.

-Alt currency is having guest speaker today at 3pm: Edgar Kohn

Sully – Education Empowerment – if there’re any teach-ins, etc., you want to bring to the plaza, contact occupy101@gmail.com (occupy101 null@null gmail NULL.com).

Sully (also reporting for) Facilitation –

 

 

Agenda

How to take public space

Proposal to create indoor living space to free up Zuccotti for operational protest affairs

Discussion of role of coordinators’ meeting

Hierarchy

 

 

How to take public space

–Can’t walk across the park. Spaces between tents are filling up w/ stuff.

–Big tent budget is approved & locations are planned out; we have a fire expert involved in making sure egresses are sufficient.

–I’m in favor of doing this all at once, but

–I overheard an extensive plan last night to move kitchen

–there is a basic plan outlined: if we prioritize medical & food, we can create two effective corridors

–let’s take action on this; let’s start red-taping spots when people vacate them.

 

 

Indoor Space

– we have way too many people in the space & we’re trying to fit two different functions in the space. One group is deeply committed to creating an effective movement. The other has an important role but comes w/ a lot of needs. Proposal: housing set up off-site for those in working groups; working w/ city to create more evolved homeless shelters for the second group. Clear up all of Zuccotti for operation of the movement.

– the big tents can easily transition into just working spaces. Also, it’s not a hard line between the two groups; people can be changed into activists by being here.

– isn’t the occupation part of the protest?

– otherwise, the space immediately becomes unusable

– there’s a problematic move here to classify people into these two groups

– there’s a danger to this plan: if we take people w/ high needs & reconnect them w/ the same system that has failed them; we need to maintain a relationship w/ those people

– big difference between those who want to help out & feel part of the movement & those who actually feel empowered to join a working group.

– three concerns: one, if we don’t have a strong enough presence over the winter, we may get cleared out; two, it institutionalizes the class system that we’ve already seen emerging, esp bec if you house people together who are in working groups, they become kind of stuck in those working groups.

 

 

Purpose of the Coordinators Meeting

– I think this

– should be focused on solutions

– I come to these meetings to see what people are doing & how I can best collaborate & contribute

– maybe we could decide as a group that we won’t talk about philosophy or leave it up to the facilitator

– disagree; this meeting is an effective info clearinghouse but

– recent meetings have veered far into philosophical & long-winded

– philosophical is ok but only if it’s aimed at action.

– what if, at the beginning of each topic, after the person who opened it presents, we take propositions.

– if we started w/ discussion, we might get additional discussion that we don’t need

– it should be facilitator’s call

– if you have a topic you want to discuss, make it clear how it’s relevant to your working group, so even if it’s philosophical, it’s grounded in something concrete

 

 

Hierarchy in Working Groups

– I was reading t about Tyranny & it’s exactly what’s going on in my group; there’s a concentration of information that doesn’t get out to everybody in the bottom.

– who is it that info concentrates in the hand of.

– bridge gap between meeting-attenders & non-attending workers, make sure that you get everyone there for loaded votes

– that article (that Jose mentioned) is amazing but this isn’t what it’s talking about: it’s about how in a horizontal organization, you get a small group of people that’s doing the majority of the work & therefore has all the information. Then it becomes hard for people not already in that group to get involved.

– I’m concerned about this & I think it’s real, but the past couple days I’ve gotten a lot of negative feedback fr people, bec. a lot of my work happens in an office. It’s important to give people the benefit of the doubt.

– It’s the authority’s responsibility to enfranchise its members. Should people feel disenfranchised, they should take power by occupying their group.

– I totally agree; there’s a way to talk about this that’s not all about guilt. Training & documentation needs to be a priority for every group.

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Coordinators Meeting Minutes 11/6/2011

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Sophie – various
• planning consent workshops for all working groups.
• info is getting more organized & Sophie is leaving

Eric – food
• running a delivery system for working groups having meetings in a number of locations
• trying to start a water working group; how do we get our waiter; water rights, etc.

Ronnie
• outreach: community organizers lunch @101 6th Ave & Canal to tell people about how to organize their own Das
• 11th, 12th, 13th – occupy your block; get the focus off Zuccotti, out into communities
• Occupy New Haven
• Outreach meeting here, today, at 5:00

Cynthia – info, outreach
• Info & Outreach are merging
• New volunteer desk

Daryl – SIS & other needs
• Setting up google docs to make it easier to do meeting minutes, etc.
• Working on top line visions & goals

Evan – open source, etc.
• Permabank by end of week
• Generators should be back by the middle of the week
o Legal sent a letter to FDNY
o They stonewalled a while then said we could get them back
o We’re assembling a fire-fighting team in order to maintain fire safety.

Ryan – PR
• No report back

Diego – Kitchen
• No report back

Max
• Facilitation trying to get fewer white males facilitating
• Tents Project got $20,000 for more communal tents.

Jill
• Teach-in on time-sharing
• Time-bank software

Sparkle
• Doing security outside women’s tent.
• Upset that we still have people sleeping in the streets

Josh – comfort
• There’s been a power structure in comfort lately, but it seems to have burned itself out.

AGENDA
Race
Top line visions & goals
Homelessness
Get assembly area back
Inter-group communication tools
Health in communal tents

RACE
Daryl: Race is not balanced in this movement; we have a ghetto of disinvolvd people at the downhill end of the park.
Sparkles: I don’t understand how people can say they can’t be part of the process when they don’t try to be part of the process.
Shen: there are societal people we need to unlearn; but in this movement, we also  want to spread this culture of personal responsibility. This is one place we can empower anyone. We people of color need to step forward. Facilitation, organization, etc. need to reach out.
Ryan: some people are here because it’s a safe place and will stay a long time and use movement resources. Is the camp a symbol or an encampment of activists.
Jose: I got to a lot of meetings that are all white. I ask other people of color to come but they’re intimidated. We need affirmative action; we need to reach out to the community.
Brian: When we’re trying to diversify, we don’t want to silence another voice.
Jill: The history of racism is so old, we can’t expect to overcome immediately. We need to reach out & communicate w/ people w/ street vernacular.
Daryl: there are differences in culture that can create misperceptions. Directness may be perceived as violent or aggressive, when it’s not really meant that way.
Sophie: this is a difficult topic & we need to devote time to it. There are other ways to participate besides speaking. Also, there’s a group trying to integrate more conversations about race, class, & gender, and make that a larger part of our culture in the park.
Josh: geography is a big issue; we need to be more geographically mixed in the park.
Evan: white is too much of a catch-all. I’m german-Jewish. That’s more complicated than just white.
Daryl: let’s have a breakout group to talk about

VISIONS & GOALS
Daryl: wants a movement that is a flexible platform for national change; people living in the camp should have to work min 20 hrs/wk, go to teach-ins, present photo id, etc.
Eric: working on getting spaces for the winter
Brian: don’t like the idea of requiring people to work & show IDs, etc.
Evan: this is an economy of abundance. Quantitative requirements interfere w/ that.
Sophie: I agree w/ Evan but also see value in what Daryl is saying.
Daryl: I’m not saying we should make everybody grind or work in a particular area, but if people don’t work then they’re not contributing, and stuff won’t happen.
Evan: work is the gifts people have to give. This movement is about the qualitative over the quantitative, richer information not documented by x number of hours, etc.

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Coordinators Meeting 11/5/2011 (report backs only)

November 6, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Report Backs

•           Chris Bentley, just an observer – nothing to report

•           Frankie, just observing

•           Michelle, Sustainability & OWS in Espanol – Battery stuff w/ pedal-power, harvesting rainwater, today is barter market; here to coordinate w/ kitchen about battery; 4-6 hrs to charge a battery. We have @ least 8 batteries. Media seems to be coming 2+ at a time. We need as many people on the bike as possible. If you know any electricians, send them our way.

•           Fix, media – working to make media mor organized. Moving forward w/ budget proposal

•           Jose, fr. kitchen, sanitation, etc. – yesterday, for the first time, kitchen opened at 7. Today, we have a new lady, Gail, taking inventory. She’s really good.

•           Gypsy, floater – have something in the works to get indoor shower & bath facility. We have porto-potties coming. Tentative to get us office locker room w/ toilets & showers in the back. Laundry left last night. We need to put our permanent facilities in permanent housing.

•           Ryan, PR – @ the end of the day yesterday, the same politicians were standing w/ Bloomberg, attacking the culture of the park, talked about something positive that we are doing to improve quality of life in the community.

•           Josh, fr. Comfort – there’s a strong authority structure @ Comfort these days; how can we change that structure?

•           Jill, organizing teach-in for squatting & part of open-source – open source is not recruiting people who would like to work & giving them credit. Trying to use software to allow people to contribute & get credit for it.

•           Andrew, alt banking – discussing things that could actually be done abt financial system; lots of interest; lots of people coming. Very concerned about the risk of our group not being integrated w/ the rest of OWS. We don’t want to come up w/ proposals & then sell them to others; we want the proposals to be collectively drafted.

•          Shen, fr. Organization – working w/ interior designers & builders on our off-site workspaces. We have a couple spaces, open 24/7, separately funded. We have created a pilot program to help get office space for those who need it. We have a google form for people to fill out to describe their office needs. We will soon put it up on the NYCGA website, and announce it at Spokes Council & GA.

•           Judy, fr. Library – great poetry assembly last night.

•           Dave, fr Occupy Toronto, Marshals, DA – having a lot of issues in Toronoto, here to

•           Lana, fr. Occupy Toronto, logistics, labor, outreach, finance, DA

•           Bryan – fr. Occupy Toronoty, media, facilitation

•           Sandra, Outreach – working on info list to revise it; trying to reach out to other organizations w/in New York. Sunday 2pm Organizers Meeting @ one of the union halls

 

Agenda

•           Hierarchy in groups – 4

•           Growing class divide & inequity in the park & how we can begin to deal with it – 9

•           Toronto report back – 7

•           Organization: laundry problem – 7

•           Resources online.

 

Hierarchy in Groups

•           Gypsy: hierarchy is a necessary part of life; people have to have roles or nothing gets done.

•           Jill: we have people running departments who don’t know how to communicate; people’s skills are ignored; advocates use of time-bank to give people credit for the time they work.

•           Jose: help me understand hierarchy. A little group of people who control everything but don’t listen to the needs of others.

•           Gypsy: everything needs chain of command, order.

•           Shen: point of info – the biggest strength of this movement is spontaneous order, but the idea is this: this of th is movement the way you think of the internet: no leader, no center. How do you have efficiency w/out leaders? Processes, procedures, chain of command. Think of Wikipedia: no leader, no expert; yet within less than a year, it became the largest, most comprehensive, most accurate encyclopedia in the world.

•           Jill: leadership does evolve naturally & we need leaders. Nothing’s black & white here. Internet’s great but it’s not accessible to the poor. Wikipedia is great, but that’s just facts, not functionality.

•           Functional def of hierarchy:

 

Growing Class Divide & Inequity in the Park

•           Gypsy: We need permanent structures for permanent facilities; we have given our permanent structures to our permanent population.

•           Jill: I am concerned about allocating resources to transients, but we can’t just reject our transient population. We’re getting ourselves into trouble. We have a vernacular problem. People w/ vernacular have a lot to say.

•           Fix: we need to prepare people in the park as best we can; the park is important. What we’ll probably see is a thinning; but we want to help people

•           I think we depend on our transients. Transience is a solution to a class problem.

•           Are transients people who come in to occupy people who come in & leave?

•           Gypsy: we have both occupiers & homeless people.

•           Winterization committee to look at larger structures & individual tents to make sure people are actually prepared.

•           Conflating two issues: class issues & winterization issue. Distinction btwn people who are trying to make things work in the park & real security issues. It’s not all oppression; it’s also real security issues.

•           Jose: in a couple days there will be a permanent transient tent.

 

Toronto Report Back

•           We’ve been around for 15 days.

•           First night: 50 people sleeping over.

•           Now, about 200 tents.

•           Park is about 3 times the size of Liberty Plaza

•           Large Gazebo for Gas

•           More spaces, so committee meetings have places to meet.

•           Got yurts a few days ago: library, workshops, _____.

•           A lot of committees:

o          Logistics: getting resources, tents, sleeping bags, etc.

o          Outreach: bringing in activists from the outside to talk about their permanent work on the ground

o          Finance: having trouble securing a bank account, so haven’t been able to take donations onlne. Credit Unions don’t want to give us an account, since we’re not an official charity.

o          Labor: unions are giving us stuff: canopies, tables, chairs, skids

•           Park was traditional crack, meth park. Difficult people in the park.

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Coordinators meeting minutes 11/2/2011

November 2, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Report Backs
• Max, Organization: nothing new.
• Olivia, Outreach: working on intake program, hopefully twice a day, orientation for newcomers; trying to centralize outreach to organizations, businesses, labor, universities, etc.
• Sophie, Occupiers/women/etc.: we’re working on having a consent training that we’re going to share w/ every working group. Want to find a meeting time during which we can do an hour-long training. Planning solidarity walkout against sexual violence.
• Jeanni, Financial Research & Application for OWS: nothing to report
• Bill, PR:
• Lorin, arts: doing outreach to NYC’s interfaith movement; met w/ Occupy Faith last night; they’re looking for spaces, kitchens, etc.; they want to help but are having trouble navigating our system; they want to have a faith & family tent for the winter.
• Gypsy, “we get shit done”: contact list for ; working on getting Go Phones (w for everyone in the ; now working on contact info for each working group;
• Jose, reporting for comfort: their shelter is too weak
• _____
• _____
• Jose,
o medical:
o Setting up protocols for how to deal with incidents in the park; that group has empowered itself to police the park & has asked some people to leave based on their behavior in the park.
o Small affinity group setting up intentional community w/in the park.
• Pete, Finance – 5:30-6, Friday, @ the red cube, and moving to somewhere else.
• Rick, alt currency: 12:00 meeting at Charlottes, Anya & Katie, thinker & filmmaker abt at currency;
• Chris & Megan, kitchen: kitchen is experiencing growing pains. We’re trying to branch out as an entity that feeds people but also does other projects.
• Angelo, no group: I’m working on a website called the occupyassembly.org, aimed at being an online GA. Not officially affiliated with OWS.
• Special Report: the internet proposal passed last night
• Catherine, fr. occupiers: I’m starting a social justice workshop for people in the park.
 
 
Announcement: we have major donation for office space for approximately 50-people’s working space. Organization has been tasked with organizing use of the space. We have an office manager who is also an occupier. The donor picked 11 groups that they want using the office. Send your liaison (ideally, experienced project-managers) to the Organization WG.
 
Announcement: General Strikes: Nov 2nd Oakland, Nov 17th NYC, building towards Nov. 30th nationwide.
 
Agenda
Discuss certain items in the news
Consent training
Safety at night, winterization, & cultural issues in the park; certain kinds of music, partying, dancing
Protocols for this meeting
 
Items in the News
 
Bill: The Post has put on its cover a story about  business near here that’s laying off a bunch of people & we’re being blamed. There’s no quote from OWS. The barricades are a serious issue for everyone in the community. That’s on the mayor. Statue is guarded 24-7 at great expense. Since the first day, the NY Post has been covering us negatively.
Daily News was fine; not much about us.
The bank story is being viewed as riding the general wave of anger by consumers & others.
 
 
Consent Training
 
Training will put OWS in context w/in larger culture, Viz. gender & sexual violence. Trans-friendly
Come talk to me if you have more questions afterwards.
Discussion of “rape culture”: putting responsibility on he victim.
Olivia: let’s email that out to working groups in advance, so we can discuss it.
Sophie’s contact: 802-291-3634
 
 
Lorin
 
There are a lot of different projects going on around safety at night & winterization. A few people working on large group tents. Can we get a status update on that?
 
Chris: personal experience last night w/ safety in the park. Someone accused of sexual assault came into the park; a large group of people appeared & asked him to leave.
Jose: the girl who was assaulted has decided to press charges.
Jose (hat): if you have not done survival training, please be very careful about how you discuss sexual assaults in these groups. If you are interested in getting involved in safety & security, please get involved in Community Watch. There’s a training today @ 3pm, here at 60 Wall. To clarify: no one is kicking people out based on rumors; we have trained professionals dealing with this.
 
Clarifying question: how do you get in touch with peace council.
Jose: don’t call a mic check; call for security via someone with a walky-talky
 
Shen: Org. is trying to help keep track of all these efforts.
 
Kitchen has been asked to condense our food times & there’s been a lot of backlash about not serving food 24/7. We need help not being the bad-guys of the park.
 
 
 
Meeting Procedures
 
Lorin: Concern that people are missing info by coming late. Shen talked about lateness rules, and we should put them into place.
 
Pete: People have other things that need to get done. If that’s the way you want to run it, I’m never going to speak & I’m going to stop participating.
 
Need to put meeting times on a board.
 
 
Announcement: organization group has been facilitating this meeting, but it’s not exclusive; please come to us, come to any of us, anyone who wants to facilitate or co-facilitate.

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Coordinator’s minutes 11/1

November 2, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

The minutes-taker missed the report-backs on this day)

Agenda

  • Winterization
  • Proposal from structure & organization
  • Problems with last night’s GA
  • Internal community issues inside plaza Viz. media & substantive issues
  • Chip: solution to our electrical problems that requires nothing but money & involves no fire-dept. issues
  • I want to propose a coalition around emergency preparedness for raid

Agenda Item 1: Winterization

Groups involved:

·         Sustainability – working on pallet system to collect drain-water to specific site & keep everyone off the ground

·         Library has accepted donation fr. Patti Smith for large canope tent

·         Town Planning

·         Community Affairs

·         Organization

What are we doing about roads

I’m working on a plan in conjunction w/ town planning to put event tents over the entire park, including the trees (???)

Ric: quick point on legality—the tents we have now are not legal; they were never supposed to be there; if it’s something we want to do, we just do it.

Agenda Item 2: Proposal Regarding Spokes Council & Coordinator Meeting Planning

Proposed: Coordinators will meet only Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday mornings, in order not to create redundancy with Spokes Council.

Concerns about procedures used when the Spokes Council was voted in; specifics were cleared up: facilitation team was hand-picked; stacks were not finished.

Decided: we will keep the 9am meeting through Thursday, in order to see what happens at the first Spokes Council.

Announcement: emergency occupiers meeting @ 2pm in order to address issues of safety, violence, sanitation, etc. at the park. We have rumors that the city is sending destructive people to us. Please share this info with others.

Agenda Item 3: Problems with Last Night’s GA

Seemed

Announcement: Today’s Daily News contained an article claiming that the occupation I being occupied.

PR deals with lots of media outlets, both large and small. We need info all the time. In the last couple weeks, often lead by the NY tabloids, there have been a lot of stories trying to pull at one thread of the community and unravel it. If you’re not prepared to deal with the media, find us at the press table. It’s not just a PR problem; these things also involve substantive problems. Issues the media is talking about:

·         Weather – mostly positive

·         Halloween – the OWS contingent of the Halloween Parade promises to be really great.

When you read or see stuff, ask yourself, is it more negative or positive, and does it contain our central message.

AP has a security report in the works.

Be careful with accusatory words. We don’t need to escalate things any more than they might already be.

Recommendation: it would be very helpful if PR could offer trainings for info, kitchen, direct action.

Announcement: Someone at food is now offering catering for working groups. Get in touch with them if you have a meeting during mealtimes.

Shen: The minutes for this meeting are not getting on the website.

Haywood: Send them to me. I can do it.

Meeting took 49 minutes.

Breakout Group: Winterization

My friends Teddy & Hall got money from Finance to get 40 pellet boards to insulate underneath tent.

Some MIT kids are working on sustainable, rechargeable, gel heat-packs – talk to Sarah from Sustainability.

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10/31 Coordinators Meeting Minutes

November 1, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Agenda
Winterization
Proposal from structure & organization
Problems with last night’s GA
Internal community issues inside plaza Viz. media & substantive issues
Gypsy: solution to our electrical problems that requires nothing but money & involves no fire-dept. issues
propose a coalition around emergency preparedness for raid

Agenda Item 1: Winterization
Groups involved

  • Sustainability – working on pallet system to collect drain-water to specific site & keep everyone off the ground
  • Library has accepted donation fr. Patti Smith for large canope tent
  • Town Planning
  • Community Affairs
  • Organization

What are we doing about roads
I’m working on a plan in conjunction w/ town planning to put event tents over the entire park, including the trees (???)
Ric: quick point on legality—the tents we have now are not legal; they were never supposed to be there; if it’s something we want to do, we just do it.

Agenda Item 2: Proposal Regarding Spokes Council & Coordinator Meeting Planning

Proposed: Coordinators will meet only Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday mornings, in order not to create redundancy with Spokes Council.

Concerns about procedures used when the Spokes Council was voted in; specifics were cleared up: facilitation team was hand-picked; stacks were not finished.

Decided: we will keep the 9am meeting through Thursday, in order to see what happens at the first Spokes Council.

Announcement: emergency occupiers meeting @ 2pm in order to address issues of safety, violence, sanitation, etc. at the park. We have rumors that the city is sending destructive people to us. Please share this info with others.

Agenda Item 3: Problems with Last Night’s GA

Seemed

Announcement: Today’s Daily News contained an article claiming that the occupation I being occupied.
PR deals with lots of media outlets, both large and small. We need info all the time. In the last couple weeks, often lead by the NY tabloids, there have been a lot of stories trying to pull at one thread of the community and unravel it. If you’re not prepared to deal with the media, find us at the press table. It’s not just a PR problem; these things also involve substantive problems. Issues the media is talking about:

  • Weather – mostly positive
  • Halloween – the OWS contingent of the Halloween Parade promises to be really great.

When you read or see stuff, ask yourself, is it more negative or positive, and does it contain our central message.
AP has a security report in the works.
Be careful with accusatory words. We don’t need to escalate things any more than they might already be.

Recommendation: it would be very helpful if PR could offer trainings for info, kitchen, direct action.

Announcement: Someone at food is now offering catering for working groups. Get in touch with them if you have a meeting during mealtimes.

Shen: The minutes for this meeting are not getting on the website.
Haywood: Send them to me. I can do it.

Meeting took 49 minutes.

Breakout Group: Winterization

My friends Teddy & Hall got money from Finance to get 40 pellet boards to insulate underneath tent.
Some MIT kids are working on sustainable, rechargeable, gel heat-packs – talk to Sarah from Sustainability

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Working Group Coordination Minutes 10/26/2011

October 26, 2011 in Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

OWS Working Group Coordination Meeting #38 Weds 10/26/11
Facilitator: Drew
1) Report Backs
- info – taking on some Internet task. Please keep your WG contact info up-to-date. In order to get cash from Finance, you need at least 2 current contacts.
- Library – Working on a way to keep things dry. will work with town planning
- Community watch – slightly unorganized last night. were some issues. need more agreements about how to handle problems
- think tank – here to figure out how we connect with other groups. Can provide space to groupsource issues WGs are facing
- community relations – community board passed a proposal in support of us
- Environment – Rio earth summit – putting some energy behind having a presence there Read the rest of this entry →

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Working Group Coordination Meeting Minutes 10/25/2011

October 25, 2011 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

OWS Working Group Coordination Meeting #37 Tuesday 10/25/11

Agenda Items:

* Sanitation
* Community Watch
* Policy for press attending meetings
* Personal donations/transparent financing
* Food distribution

ANNOUNCEMENTS

Olivia report back from Outreach: Nov 11-13: Occupy Your Time

o Building support from community groups
o A time for supporting groups to present teach ins and community projects. Expand dialogue at Liberty Sq. to all over NY.
o Need to talk to working groups with Outreach subcommittees: If you have contacts with other GAs, talk to them.

Laura reports from Food

o Talk today at 2pm about how to curtail eating times and how to distribute food to working groups
o Ongoing conversation.
o Talk to them in the kitchen
o Will report back to 7pm Peacekeeping meeting
o
o Ben reports back from Community Relations
o Meet at 6, talk about agreement with drumming
o
o George reports back from Movement building/InterOccupations working group
o Last night: conference call with lots of other Occupations around the country
o 6pm meeting at 60 Wall St.
o Hoping to get another occupation to facilitate a conference call.
o
o Rick: alternative currency working group
o Money IQ tests, speakers at 60 Wall St: successful day
o Other events to come
o
o Evan from Open Source
o Developing website for sharing skills
o
o Max from Direct Action
o Labor Outreach Group in Brooklyn at 5pm today
o Friday 2-4pm drop off letters to banks.
o 10/29: march in Queens about foreclosures
o
o Andy from Facilitation
o 3 Bronx GAs
o Last Saturday: marched on Chase Bank
o Announcement: don’t lose sight of what we created by going to too many meetings and events! INREACH! Do a community watch.
o Community Watch meets 10pm every night at drumming place
o
o Jonathan: FUN working group!
o Meet 3pm Wed. by artsy red sculpture
o
o Josh: visitor from another group to learn
o “Boomer’s guilt”: lots of love and support coming to you all!
o
o Joe (?) from Alternative Economies
o Worker’s Coop Committee, other committees
o Trying to start printers’ coop
o
o Sully from Facilitation
o New Spaces and Scheduling Working Group: keeping track of off-site spaces, help with scheduling time

Internet group

o Conference call to work on project management

Beth from Press

o AM radio station broadcasting tomorrow. Need guests!

Amanda is Occu-Hopping! from Oakland

Terra getting more involved

Yasmine: first meeting of Entrepreneurs at 5pm

Deborah: working against workplace bullying

Randall from Outreach

o Proposal for march to DC for MLK day. Working with DC folks

Kim starting group called Homelessness and Allies

o March for homeless people in the future

Farrish: continuing support

Debra joining Community Watch and Fun!

o CONCERN: people on the news concerned with fire hazards at Liberty Sq
o Update: biodiesel coming soon.
o Debra: asked firefighters to come down, but they said they can’t

AGENDA

Sanitation: Murdoch

* Sunday: element of fear in the park. Frustrated. Press already reporting on this. Need to be able to call ourselves out if we’re calling the world out
* Signs with sanitation and food saying, “We will clean up your occupation, not your party.”
* About violence: need signs that say “This person is violent” to use when someone is threatening.

Evan: “culling out” is not useful language. Shouldn’t do “us vs them.”

Max: community not enough informed about this. Have mediation or small group

Answer: it’s been done

Community Watch report back

* One violent incident in which someone was pushed out of camp
* Drinking
* Someone selling drugs. All of community watch went over, the guy left

George: call to action to social workers in the city.

Debra: crack and heroin in the park. Remove the tents? Also, it’s ok to talk to the media about this because we need to be open about it

Farrish: can’t help people who don’t want to help themselves. Going to have to make a decision

Community Watch

* Meet at 10pm at drumming area

Policy about press and the media at meetings

* Rick: Need to embrace transparency and set a presidency.
* Josh: something to identify people as not wanting to be on camera
* Beth: meetings were always open to the press. A few days ago, coordinators meeting decision that press would identify themselves and people at meeting have to decide that whether they can stay.
o It’s a public space: they can leave or stay
* Andy: hope we can have GA decide this. THIS is the most inspiring part of this revolution.
* Joshua: Trinity Church asks that we get permission before filming onsite
o Ask for Nathan Brodsky: he’ll give you permission pretty easily
* Terra: important to have transparency, but need to create space where people feel safe to share
o Response: that’s easy to set up.
* Joshua: be aware of security culture. Anyone could be an informant.
* Working group to bring this proposal to the GA? Press will do it
* Important to have independent free press in the camp.

Donations within working groups

* Evan: skill share, project proposal page important for transparency
o Individual projects comprised of people from multiple working groups can get funded directly
* What are we doing with Community Watch and Security to deal with people panhandling for drugs on site?
* Joshua: propose that we have break-away group that focuses on this
* Evan: it’s not parallel funding that’s sneaky. It can be transparent and not centralized
* Kim: great point, but GA not passing funding all the time, and those folks still need the money.
* Kaspar: from De-escalation. About people with buckets getting money for themselves. Need to make signs and point those people out.
* Worked with finance? Evan: yes

Random announcements

* Sean: security is really important. On the ground presence in the park important
* Charlie: consciousness group. Putting together team to go to all Occupations. Meeting at 11 at 60 Wall. occupywithin.

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Coordination Meeting Minutes 10/24/2011

October 24, 2011 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Coordination Meeting
10/24/2011

Facilitator: Chen

Agenda Items:
36.1.1 Reportbacks
36.2.1 Are folks getting what they need from Info?
36.3.1 Off-site Support Space
36.4.1 Discussion of Peacekeeping Meetings
36.5.1 How Groups are Created and Maintained
36.6.1 Moving items and fund to other occupations

36.1.1 Reportbacks:

36.1.2 Internet: The minutes email can be minutes@nycga.net, plus on the resources section of the website, where it can be formatted as a file.

36.1.3 Community Relations: We are working to negotiate new off-site work-space. We’d like a group to help coordinate the use of the space we have and the space we’re getting.
We want to figure out some of the points of progress we’ve codified, drumming seems like a big problem, and we have a hotline. Our job is to reportback between the community and OWS groups

36.1.4 Alternative Banking: We had a 17-person meeting with a conference call. We spoke with Alternative Economy about handing off the Bank Transfer Day. We also spoke about credit unions or alternative banking. Next Sunday, 3-5, East 20th, 5th Floor.

36.1.5 Library: We’re showing movies now. We’re using this earpiece thing to broadcast sound.

36.1.6 People of Color and Outreach had a organizing lunch, with 200 people, talked about OWS in the boroughs. It went really well, it was twice the size of the last one.

36.1.7 Spanish: We had our meeting yesterday, with 50 people and more digitally. Next Sunday, 60 Wall, we will meet again, English speakers welcome.

36.1.8 Environmental: 4PM, 60 Wall St.

36.1.9 Facilitation: We’re starting an on-site facilitation table 10-6PM. We’re working on a proposal to make the General Assembly process more efficient, which will include a 24-hour feedback period before proposals hit the floor.

36.1.10 SIS: we’re doing well, taking stuff in, giving it out. Going to GA to get a monthly fee of $500 for UPS. We want to buy shelves, too. Please spread the support. owsshipping@gmail.com

36.1.11 Open Source: We’re looking for project managers to help us implement agile development. Please get in contact with me, drew, or shen.

36.1.12 PR: We’re putting out info about finance, which is a big PR soft spot, as well as community relations and we’re liaising with the cops.

36.1.13 Info: We’re coordinating with internet to have quicker information flow, plus we can update the website for folks. We are buying laptops, which we plan to defend with a bulldog. Please let us know what you need.

36.1.14 Education and Empowerment: There’s a lot going on, a lot of folks are scattered. WORKING GROUP meeting Friday, 8:30. A subcommittee is Nomadic University.

36.1.15 Food: We have a mealtime schedule to try. 730-10 breakfast, 1130-330 lunch, 6-10 dinner. We’re planning to attend the conference we’ve discussed. We’re working on making our distro to working groups smaller and better.

36.1.16 Comfort: We have a ton of tents and sleeping bags, we want to give working groups with folks at Liberty priority on those.
On Tents: Can we use them? We don’t ask for permission, and some are, in fact, up. We have concerns that the tents hide unsavory activity.

36.1.17 Structure: We’re thinking of pushing our spokescouncil proposal back to Friday. We’re doing teach-ins to Wednesday, then putting something online with all the feedback we’ve gotten.

36.1.18 Peace Council: There’s a lot of concern with safety and other issues. We think there’s drug dealing, local gangs on hand, according to security, which is unreliable.

36.1.19 Internet and Open Source want you to come to us with concerns, etc., about the website. We are doing the project management thing.

36.1.20 DA: We are now a hub, not a vanguard. 2PM Trinity Church. Stop Government Sorcery march to the Secret Police at 2Pm.

36.1.21 Stop Stop and Frisk: We took people up to Harlem, there was civil disobedience. About 5 were arrested from OWS. October 22d march had 700 from here.

36.1.22 Finance: Posting our balance sheet today, online. I can’t do it hour by hour, it’s more month by month. We had some miscommunication from internet, I had to go to Boston, but I have a balance sheet right here. I’m trying to find it now. Balance about $423,000. Please look to the website for this balance sheet.

Item #2: PROPOSAL
36.2.1 Proposal to adopt a meeting structure:
We will have 1 minutes report backs, ask for members of press to leave at the beginning of the meeting, have 5 minute items, and cap the meeting at 90 minutes.
36.2.2 Friendly Amendment: Let’s have a co-facilitator.
36.2.3 How do we decide to adopt or carry items?
36.2.4 We already do a good job self-policing what is important, we probably don’t need this mechanism. If someone is taking lots of time, we have a breakout group. That can be items that are less universally relevant
36.2.5 We could use Google Docs for agile development and agenda development.
R: I don’t have a lot of internet access. I don’t like that because it shits people out [twinkles].
36.2.6 We can list what items are on the agenda, bump items to the top, or reject them.
36.2.7 Isn’t this is already the same meeting structure we use?
36.2.8 When we make decisions about the internet, we do it in person. Also, please make sure decisions to take more time do not take more time.
36.2.9 Please create a structure for a takeaway action and bring back the proposal.
36.2.9 Friendly amendment: Let’s briefly review minutes at the beginning of meetings.
TABLED.

ITEM 3: DISCUSSION

36.3.1 Tents Item merged with peace Council.
We have formed our own ghetto, which is a security and social concerns. We have local gangs, as well. Food and comfort is free, it’s police free. We’re trying to get identifiable sashes for people who are up all night, maybe 15, to do a direct action and move people out of the park. Let’s make it slightly less accommodating. Close the kitchen at 8PM. Folks stay up to 4AM, sometimes police come in. Tents are a concern because they hide things and enable people to sleep later.
36.3.2 Do we have professional drug workers, health workers?  We should do harm reduction.
36.3.3 Police are letting it fester, but we do have some health workers.
36.3.4 Everyone needs to join this group. It’s a huge problem we need to deal with, and direct action folks need to be ready to use nonviolence. We can’t neglect the society we want to change.
TABLED.

ITEM 4:  DISCUSSION

36.4.1 Off-site spaces.
We have the storage space. We need to assemble support for that space. Outreach, archives, food, comfort are using that space, need to step up to cleaning and taking care of it. The support nerve center we’re looking at, other folks looking at office space need to talk with me. I need help thinking of how to proceed on moving working groups into it, etc.
I’ve been contacted by a donor who woks with real estate and NY city planning. She’s looking at office space or live/work space.
The space we’re looking at could probably have every working group move into it tomorrow, we just need to figure out how to allot the space, etc. There is no cost.
36.4.2 We have a lot of space offers. Let’s ask for space of sufficient size, with power and internet. We should say, this is what meets our qualifications, let’s work from there.
R:That’s the whole idea.
36.4.3 Could outreach work on outer borough spaces? We are making progress on this.
36.4.4 The more the working groups move from Liberty Plaza, the more we neglect our symbolic space. A Breakout could be arranged

ITEM 5: DISCUSSION

36.5.1 How groups are formed and maintained.

Drew was asked to remove demands working group. There is no formal process of what a working group is.

36.5.2 This is very pertinent to the kitchen because we have a lot of people coming from working groups to get food. We’re trying to limit doing this. We agreed to limits in another meeting, but some working groups feel left out of that decision. Some sort of legitimacy would help us.

36.5.3 As a structure member, I want to remind folks of our teach-ins and the fact that a spokescouncil would help solve this problem. This meeting was talked about as a spokescouncil model. Temperature Check: Positive.

36.5.4 If we did that, we would need someone from structure to do that.

36.5.5 As SIS, we have been policing working groups as folks try to get supplies, but it shouldn’t be our responsibility.

36.5.6 Proposal: All working group registrations should go through info.
Extended for 3min.

36.5.7 This is totally contingent on spokes councils. Nothing to be done here.

36.5.8 With finance, we can cut off funding for groups that don’t bring receipts, maybe even for folks who break agreements (drummers).

36.5.9 Walkie-talkies, sashes would help.
I’ve cut off funds to some people who I don’t believe are consenting with a legitimate working group. It’s a problem. We need to register.

36.5.10 There is a form at info. Does it need to be ratified in some way?

I36.5.11 nfo: You register, you ID yourself visually, you talk to finance to make a budget.
Info and finance should meet now, coordinate this issue as we wait for the spokescouncil.

ITEM 6: DISCUSSION

36.6.1 Sharing Resources.
The Metro brought a concern in a story, that have lots of resources and are not sharing them. Let’s figure out how to share.

36.6.2 I got a call from Boston and Oakland, saying they need specific stuff. Let’s have a weekly call to distribute our wealth. Let’s have a national legal fund.

36.6.3 When we talk about the spokecouncil, it came up that maybe the funds it was dealing with should be for the whole movement. If we figure out how to disburse them, then we have more legitimate claim to what’s left.

36.6.7 The library has been spreading its wealth already.

36.6.8 Occupy Together is supposed to be a clearinghouse.
R: It is just a website, it is very nebulous.

36.6.9 We have $416,000 in the bank, we’ve spent $60000, it’s a lot, but not as much as people think. I’d like to do some sort of percentage thing, as well as especially moving in-kind stuff.

36.6.10 Let’s focus on supporting occupations in NYC first.

36.6.11 I’m going back to Colorado, my plan is to spread this. If there’s things to share, that’s great, but relationships and skillshares are what’s needed.

36.6.12 How can we share with other occupations if we can’t share with our working groups?

36.6.13 One of the main complainers was Philly, but food is going to a conference there. If we can get a truck, we can bring them supplies. Anyone who could help, see me.

36.6.14 I don’t think we can rely on one article to decide that to do. The media are looking for whatever chinks they can find. Let’s be deliberate. We should also thin about internat’l occupations.
Breakout group on this today.

Betsy and Drew will co-facilitate, Daniel from Structure will help to make the spokes council happen.

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Minutes From 10/22/ Coordinators Meeting

October 23, 2011 in Assemblies, Coordinators' Mtg. Minutes

Shen/Moderator

Beginning of meeting:

Please be time. Facilitator arrives 5-10 earlier, prepare the area for the meeting. Some reinforcement: if late you can only be a monitor of the meeting unless decided otherwise.

Who are are auditors? This must be known at the beginning—this may change the nature, info shared at the the meeting. If from the press, they should leave. Need to know who is speaking. All cluster for each group, the same group can sit together.

Identify and sit together.

Timekeeper: each report back has one minute.

These meetings have tended to be informal so need to be flexible at each. This is a reference point for making the meetings more efficient.

Decide on the next meetings moderator. If cannot be moderator it is your responsibility to find another.

Agenda Issues:

1. De-Escalation

2. Kitchen Working Gp. Jail workers spoke with Deputy Chief of Staff of Manhattan Borough President, wants to meet to discuss what he can do for us, what we can for us

Report back:

Sean/ PR group:

Justin/ SIS: new process for supplies. You will make a list for the worksite, and someone from SIS will escort the person through supply due to a theft

Mike/OWS-Spanish. Keep sensitizing people to diverse language

Loren/Facilitation: outreach to faith based organizations for meeting. Concerned about safety

Johnson, Vermont School Paper

City Council: trying to get restriction on park. Bloomberg enforce on marches that do not have permits (this is all marches for OWS)

Haywood/Info: report

Jose/Medical: man on red sculpture, 5pm 60 WallStreet Adrian Space safelty security, drug use, sexual violence. Stakeholders need to be present

March to Union Sq: leaving at 2pm. Anit police brutality

Justin/Chapel Hill Occupation. Bringing back info

Eli/Audit

Stefanie/Audit

Christina/Audit

Anthony/Audit

Sophie: transition two info tables into welcoming table. Computers for info table needed.

Joshua/Kitchen: big things, some businesses that we are trying to work with and need to branch out with other groups. Support, but no logos. Don’t want to get co-opted. Phone streams for the parks

Internet/Solution: streamline and the goal is to coordinate technology. Key issue is hosting. GA website is on WordPress. To clarify two groups are working together as one team.

Casper/de-escalation: calm down the individual, deter the behavior. The situation on the sculpture need to de-esculate

Agenda Items

Agenda Item One

De-escalation: limit to authority, at 5pm in the Atrium Space: eviction, keeping people out of the occupation. Need to put on the website. Bring all concerns to this meeting, get together after meeting

Proposal: for the funds for the uniforms for the De-escalation. Couple of times that walkie showed up, the attitude changes in a good way. Need a point beyond that, too. Point of concern about uniforms: seems like that is too much like police. Still logistical issues that need to be worked out, needs money for walkie-talkies. The GA is now in control of the funds without going through everyone else. No way to get money for what security needs.

Agenda for GA: emergency issues get put on top. Someone from Finance should be at each meetings

Report back for late arrival:

Performing Arts group: tents, theater, and music. More festivities, visuals, positive images through art. We have meeting 60 Wall Street at 3pm. Arts and Culture have been involved.

Agenda Item 2

Kitchen: Correctional Officers is a big supporter of ows. In contact with Deputy Chief of Staff. Speaking with urban planners. Working groups please meet afterward to discuss this in more depth.

Questions

The meeting is TBA announced with Dep Chief of Staff, is there anything they can do Manhattan Borrough President is supportive when other

Coordinate with other working groups before the meeting to be sure there is no co-optation.

There is a chance this could be a good cop/bad cop scenario.

Should this meeting be advertised or private? Transparency or keep it quiet until more is known?

How do we build this with sensitivity? There may be a lot of people screaming about co-optation.

Let Community Outreach handle this and support groups should just keep things going.

Sponsors who are in support of OWS , but who don’t want to do it officially. Any person/politician who wants to donate, they can go to the website to donate. There are ways to donate already, let’s use those. Still concerned this is a political platform, so he should go through the channels

Decided that this should be a breakout issue.

Nicholas/Tea House: bought 120 ceramic cups by last night there were 14. System to solve this: stainless mugs for everyone who can take care of their own vessels. Nicholas has not started a meeting as he just started 2 days ago.

Raphael and Armando/Occupy Virginia Beach: Support of OWS

Beth/Press

Agenda Item 3:

Should we have media present? Identify press and ask them to leave. One prefers not to have media-this is the space for getting work done without media. The concern is that there should be no worry about spin/issues. Proposal: media should contact PR and they let them know when they want media involved in the meeting.

Community relations has addressed this, ask if any press is there if there are sensitive issues and let them

Beth: from media, transparency is wonderful, but we have tried with NY Post and FOX news and they have a specific spin.

POI on FOX news: this was a more balanced team in FOX on site.

For these meetings we could do without the media. We do not need them here.

We do not have a mechanism for expelling anyone from the media. Can’t actually tell them to leave, can only request.

Propose: open for the press right now? Do not have consensus, proposal: ask the press to leave to in response to those who have concerns.

Press left the meeting.

Closing stack.

PR said no press for working meetings. Inform the press after the meetings.

Agenda Item 4

Structure Committee

Discuss the situation about spokes council

Final decision: new proposal printed, final consensus blocked by 14 people, tabled until teach-ins can happen. Will come back to the GA on Wednesday. No blacklist. Spokes COuncil is arrangement so it is a way for the groups to share info. Not to replace the GA.

POI: Hoping to have updated version of proposal by Sunday night so there would be plenty of time to look over it before the Wednesday meeting.

No one is here from Structure group.

Shen: Spokes Council was significant, but not the main decision making body of Tianamen Square. Grassroots structure, pro is that is quite close to direct democracy. Con: still doesn’t scale if there are lots of people.

Some voice that GA should not decide on whether we can have spokes council.

Issues surrounding the Spokes council were aired.

Structure Working Group member present

Jose: Convening the Spokes council before the GA approves. The groups just need to organize. Most people in structure would agree to this. Then bring it back to GA on Wednesday.

Money issues are a concern.

Many working groups have their own donation bins and finance is not meeting the needs of the working groups so the groups keep the money rather than turning it over to GA.

Concern: there is no accountability in the groups for the money.

Finance is not at the meeting perhaps in part to internal restructuring. Many changes for Finance, there was a productive meeting to address issues, but it was resolved. Finance will likely be fine to withholding money from Finance. They are working on issues of reporting, etc.

Structure group asks the working groups to discuss the spokes model with those that are opposed. Feels that would help the spokes model get accepted.

Anyone using money without going through finance, please be accountable and keep records.

Spokes council will make the process more accountable, working groups will hoard

Report back:

Beth/Press Table: always looking for good stories. If we don’t give them good stories they will make them up. Always need fresh stories. Strong women in working groups have them speak up.

6 pm pret a manger PR meetings

Community Relations: quality of life, noise problems speak with someone form remediations. Technology roadmaps discussed online and published.

Conclusion of meeting: Rules reiterated.

Please be on time for the next meeting:

Sunday 9am. Meeting is always at Trinity Church.

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