Tweets for Thu, 01 Mar 2012

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Hey kids! We are starting GA at 60 Wall! #nycga

Working group reportbacks!

Reportback from Minutes: We are bleeding members and not seeing the community step up to help. #ows #nycga

Minutes: To volunteer, e-mail minutes@nycga.net. We are at the point where we can no longer assure transparency of this movement…

… By providing minutes for GA and Spokes. So ppl attending might have to take them. #ows #nycga

First agenda item: To have a group discussion about what “resources” mean in this community. #ows #nycga

Marisa (proposer): We want to popcorn for 10 mins then have breakout groups. #ows #nycga

Marisa: The urgency for this comes from the #MRG panel earlier this week, where corps would control a pool of resources…

… And funnel them to #OWS through a small committee. Marisa believes this is counter to our values. #ows #nycga

Tashy (proposer): This is just the first part of this conversation. #ows #nycga

We are starting a non-stack, “popcorn” discussion of what we think “resources” are. #ows #nycga

Lots of brief answers: “us!” “reputation” “education” “space” “networking” “basic necessities” “skillsets” “time”and many more. #ows #nycga

Now starting a breakout about what our needs are as individuals around these resources. #ows #nycga

One more reportback: There’s an action 11:30am Sat. 55 Wall St. Ray Kelly is being honored by Fordham Law School. Muslim Student Assoc …

… is protesting and would love our support. They are calling for his resignation. #ows #nycga

Another reportback: Think Tank is doing facilitator training Mon 5pm 60 Wall. To give ideas or connect, e-mail: owsthinktank@gmail.com.

Breakout report on individual needs of “resources”: Food and shelter, but also the need to share our skills and train ppl. #ows #nycga

RT @TesselizaTC: tonites NYCGA can be watched live NOW at http://t.co/dFwLulFp via @OccupySteve. @LibertySqGA @OccupyWallStNYC @OWSFacil …

Next report: To remain clear on why we showed up in the first place, remember our foundations, and conserve our resources. #ows #nycga

Next report: Resources are tools and are useful when they are used. How do we participate in the finances of #OWS? #nycga

Cont’d: We should take the money from #MRG, and we should take donated buildings. #ows #nycga

Next report: Identfying categories of needs and resources. The needs of media, to capture the attention of global media. #ows #nycga

Cont’d: To get the message out to the 99% to get them involved. How diversity of viewpoints is a resource. #ows #nycga

Next report: How do we prioritize needs? Food, housing, space? Also ppl and our brains are our most important resources. #ows #nycga

Cont’d: In terms of using our capital, we should have ppl scout around for most affordable goods. #ows #nycga

Cont’d: Maybe we could get CT Butler to do workshops on consensus, or think about if we should modify our process. #ows #nycga

New breakout for 10 mins: How could we share, multiply, or redistribute these resources? #ows #nycga

First reportback from breakout groups: Focus on skill-sharing, going to different working groups. #ows #nycga

Next report: Also skill sharing and working groups being more outward-facing, e.g. Minutes and them letting us know how to help out. #nycga

Next report: Rotating positions so power doesn’t accumulate, have ppl participate in an equal way, realizing we are the resource…

… not having two groups fighting over resources. #ows #nycga

Next report: Having a time bank to distinguish “part-time occupiers” from “full-time”… ensuring accountability …

… Having more accountability and transparency and better distribution of resources, restructuring the internal model. #ows #nycga

Next report: Act and think more globally, avoiding the top-down advantage of some people being in charge of finances. #ows #nycga

Cont’d: Teach ppl how to fish instead of giving them fish. #ows #nycga

Proposers: Tomorrow at 6pm, 235 W 23rd St., there will be a further conversation on this. #ows #nycga

Okay! That discussion is over. Moving on to #M17 Postal Service Solidarity proposal. #ows #nycga

Proposer: A rally at Union Sq at noon then a march. #ows #nycga http://t.co/ToX4dvPW

This proposer is looking for solidarity from #OWS for this action. #nycga

CQ: Why should we care abt privatizing the USPS? A: It opens the door to privatizing Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. #ows #nycga

Moving to concerns on this proposal. First: We are getting involved in something we can’t manage right now. …

… Occupy Wall St needs to remain Occupy Wall St. #ows #nycga

Stairs: Just a reminder, this proposal is just looking for solidarity, not funds. #ows #nycga

Concern: The timing of this. We already have a lot of other events that day. #ows #nycga

Now looking for friendly amendments to this rally/march against privatizing the USPS. #ows #nycga

FA: To announce the #OWS events going on that day at the USPS action. Proposer: Accepted. #ows #nycga

Stairs explains what a stand-aside is before we move forth with consensus. #ows #nycga

2 standasides. Blocks? No. We have consensus! #ows #nycga

Now, Visions & Goals! Want us to picture a time in the future when the world is 100%. What do you want to see? #ows #nycga

Now moving into breakout groups to discuss this concept. #ows #nycga

Getting reportbacks from breakout groups about their ideas of a “100% world.” #ows #nycga

Many ideas of adequate food, shelter, healthcare; no war or WMDs; a repaired and sustainable environment. #ows #nycga

Now! Activist Legal WG is asking for $200 to travel to protest AIPAC in DC. #ows #nycga

Stairs: We think we can’t bring funding proposals due to the spending freeze. #ows #nycga

POP: Zach: Thinks stairs is expressing an opinion here and it’s not fair.

The proposer from Legal steps in to ask if the proposal can at least be heard. #ows #nycga

Stairs: We don’t have a problem with any proposal being brought forth, but the spending freeze only ends when a budget passes. #ows #nycga

Proposer asks if we can talk about the proposal and not be censored by Facilitation. #ows #nycga

Sage keeps repeatedly yelling at the proposer. #ows #nycga

POI from Marisa: This body passed a spending freeze and we have to respect this. #ows #nycga

Someone says this proposal necessitates us talking about the spending freeze. #nycga

Someone else says no, this is about AIPAC and let’s talk about it! #ows #nycga

Lots of POIs and some crosstalk. Sage says the spending freeze as passed would end with a budget or at 1 month and we should look it up.

Proposer: You are the GA and you have the power to make your own decisions. #ows #nycga

Zach: Seems like a lot of people here want to talk about this proposal and the idea of us passing a proposal that spends money.

Lots of discussion of how to move forward, and points of process. #ows #nycga

Tashy: I think we should talk about brainstorming other ideas of how to get people to Occupy AIPAC and then talk abt the spending freeze.

Proposer: Legal is taking a couple ppl to protest AIPAC and we are paying hotels, food, etc out of pocket. We are just asking for …

… $200 for transportation in solidarity with this cause. #ows #nycga

CQ: To get more background on this and the issue with Iran. #ows #nycga

Proposer from Legal gives background on how AIPAC is a gigantic, very problematic lobbying group. #ows #nycga

CQ: Have you been in touch with anyone from Occupy DC?

A: Yes, we are in touch with Medea Benjamin, Lisa Fithian, and others involved with this. #ows #nycga

Lots of people are expressing support for this trip and protesting AIPAC. “We should all go!” someone says. #ows #nycga

Someone suggests he is in favor of this but knows ppl will block it out of respect for the spending freeze, so we should pass a hat. #nycga

CQ: This proposal should pass and we shouldn’t be beholden to rigid GA rules! #ows #nycga

Proposer clarifies to someone that AIPAC is the most powerful Israel lobbying group in the U.S. #nycga #ows

Someone else: If you were against the Iraq war, you should be for this, and $200 is not much! #ows #nycga

CQ: If anyone wants to have a convo about money, they should bring a proposal to GA from their working group. #ows #nycga

Cont’d: And you should start a kickstarter to raise funds. #ows #nycga

Report from the hat going around: People at GA have already kicked in $120! #ows #nycga

Proposer: You are going to make me cry! We just want to take your hearts with us #ows #nycga

Proposer wants us to get to consensus on this, but Stairs is saying we are out of time in this space. #ows #nycga

Many people want to take the GA to the park to continue this discussion. #ows #nycga

Some members of Facilitation are calling the GA over. At least one person says Facilitation is again acting like dictators. #ows #nycga

Many people here unhappy that Facilitation is declaring GA over when the community still wants to discuss this. #ows #nycga

Christina from Facilitation: The Facilitation team is stepping down. GA is over. #ows #nycga

Much yelling and cross-talk. Zach from Facilitation says we are continuing this at the park. Many ppl cheer. #ows #nycga

GA (or not?) has devolved into a huge fight over whether we can have a GA without Facilitation. http://t.co/XlgkwCxx

Much yelling back and forth about if Facilitation has the power to declare a GA over if the GA wants to continue. #ows #nycga

Some facilitation people seem very upset. Others are moving to the park to continue the discussion. #ows #nycga

We have moved to Liberty Park. New facilitators: Sean and Tess. #ows #nycga

Christina from Facilitation claims there were threats against Facilitation and this doesn’t seem like a safe space. #ows #nycga

Echo suggests we all go to vibe check training to learn to how to deal with environments like this. #ows #nycga

Some guy starts yelling at Tess about how Ben & Jerrys is behind #OWS. @OccupySteve and another step in to deescalate. #ows #nycga

Stairs tries to get us back on process. Marisa says Facilitation is empowered to end the GA. Many boos and downtwinkles. #ows #nycga

Tess takes a break and Hello Kitty Anthony steps in to facilitate with Sean. #ows #nycga

Stairs asks for temp check to have proposer restate the proposal. #ows #nycga

Libor from Legal, the proposer, says seeing the violent atmosphere here, and not wanting anyone to get arrested, has reformed the proposal.

Proposer: I have decided we are taking out the budget and are just asking for #OWS to stand in solidarity with Occupy AIPAC. #nycga

Concern: This is the first I am hearing about this and just hope you can document your trip b/c I support it. #nycga

Comment from Lady: I support the fact that we are letting GA be more organic and not relying on “Facilitation” …

[Ed: The 3 new facilitators are from Facilitation and are experienced.] #ows #nycga

Couple concerns expressed about the energy the proposer brought in presenting this proposal. #ows #nycga

FA: That this proposal could also express it’s not anti-Semitic. #ows #nycga

Proposer: Yes! That we are standing in solidarity with the Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Jewish people, and nonbelievers…

… But that we stand in solidarity against AIPAC. #ows #nycga

A few standasides, mostly about the proposer personally. #ows #nycga

Any blocks? No! We have consensus about standing in solidarity against AIPAC. #ows #nycga

Now, a proposal to discuss how some proposals have more weight than others. People are cold, though, and want to go to #leisurecaucus. #ows

Announcement from Yoni about leaving for Saturday for Occupy the Primaries. Meeting tomorrow 6pm 60 Wall. #nycga #ows

Announcement from Hello Kitty Anthony: Everyone has been a newbie facilitator at one point and they should all be respected. Solidarity!

Anouncement: The formation of a new #OWS men’s circle to help smash the patriarchy. We are in solidarity with women everywhere. #ows #nycga

Announcement: Recruiting to help chart Bilderberg and its relationship to the Fortune 500. #ows #nycga

Hey fam! That’s GA for tonight! This has been @CarrieM213 livetweeting for ya! Thanks for reading! #ows #nycga

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