Tweets for Wed, 21 Dec 2011

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RT @OWS_Tactical: ACTION: #OWS #Egpyt Solidarity Action on Egyptian Consulate – Tomorrow 2:00pm, 1110 2nd Avenue @ 59th St. #SCAF

RT @OWS_Tactical: ACTION: #OWS #Egpyt Solidarity Action on Egyptian Consulate – Tomorrow 2:00pm, 1110 2nd Avenue @ 59th St. #SCAF

RT @OWS_Tactical: ACTION: #OWS #Egpyt Solidarity Action on Egyptian Consulate – Tomorrow 2:00pm, 1110 2nd Avenue @ 59th St. #SCAF

RT @OWS_Tactical: ACTION: #OWS #Egpyt Solidarity Action on Egyptian Consulate – Tomorrow 2:00pm, 1110 2nd Avenue @ 59th St. #SCAF

RT @heratylaw: Those are for #nycga on Thurs Dec 22 RT @OccupyWallStNYC: On the #nycsc agenda tonight: Accounting, Blocks, Labor http:// …

Hey everybody! #Spokescouncil is getting started soon, ppl are trickling in. Follow the #nycsc #ows hashtags.

Some of the working group placards. #nycsc #ows http://t.co/4qXRki3b

@MMFlint Don’t forget to follow @LibertySqGA @LibertySqGA2 @LibertySqGA3 (and sometimes @LibertySqGA4) for #SpokesCouncil livetweets #nycsc

On the agenda tonight, a companion proposal to the take-yr-turn proposal that passed on Monday. #nycsc #ows http://t.co/Y7WCmbM0

here are some livestream links, not sure which is here: http://t.co/RVVHfCVj http://t.co/gOQzGBgT http://t.co/lpUKUn1J #nycsc #ows

@OccupyMyCat the #CuddleCaucus! #nycsc #ows

@heyniceplanet Cuz we haven’t started. DOn’t worry, i see some streamers here, setting up. #nycsc #ows

@theonewhoknits There’s another one, too, not sure which one, tho. #nycsc #ows

@theonewhoknits It hasn’t started yet, they are setting up. #nycsc #ows

thanks for your patience, I guess #spokescouncil starts late when they bring the food at the beginning. #nycsc #ows

Sage states that he is facilitating, introduces Liza. Liza says it’s her first time. Working Group reportbacks shld be concise. #nycsc #ows

WG reportbacks: Facilitation: Talks about Spokes on Monday, says that the modified consensus stands. #nycsc #ows

OccupyNewarK is doing well, they haveelectricity, need ppl there, so please help them occup. #nycsc #ows

Someone is talking for a WG, but I didn’t hear what WG and can’t hear what they are saying, sorry. #nycsc #ows

OccupyTheYouth: Tmrw, Thurs, 4pm will be at 504 (or 540) President Street in BK for a ReelWorks media making program. #nycsc #ows

Screenprinters Guild is doing great! They have shirts. They were approved to help screenprinting in other occupations. #nycsc #ows

Sebastian from OccupyDignity. They didn’t have time to get to a vote on funding for OccupyChristmas, asking if… #nycsc #ows

… if other WGs have any extra funds they can pitch in. #nycsc #ows

OWSLibrary: they need help! If you love words & books, email them, they’re WG is at http://t.co/OzXDORvv #nycsc #ows

Printer WG: if you have printing needs, contact them OWSPrint@gmail.com #nycsc #ows

WoWS states their support of Egypt protestors, they’re WG is also at http://t.co/OzXDORvv, for more info. #nycsc #ows

James with the painting guild says they are starting a zine. #nycsc #ows

Safer Spaces: if youhaven’t heard from them lately, get in touch: saferspaceows@gmail.com #nycsc #ows

Moving on to the agenda: 1. OccupyDignity and the OccupyChristman program. Sebastian wants to know what we think…

… his WG shld do about not being funded. He doesn’t know whether to go back to the #GA for funding, or maybe we can all make it… #nycsc

…. happen in a different way. The $$ proposal was $7K. He says we have a kitchen to cook stuff. Wants us ALL to pitch in… #nycsc #ows

… for OccupyChristmas #nycsc #ows

Someone has a PoI: doesn’t know if other WGs has authority to shift their funding to other WGs. But Sebastian wants us all to… #nycsc #ows

… to pitch in to make it happen, presumably just like we used to make all the other dinners etc. happen at #Zuccotti #nycsc #ows

Someone states that they are not Christian and feel alienated by the Christ-centered celebration. #nycsc #ows

Someone else asks that the celebration be made as secular as possible. #nycsc #ows

PoI: notes that it’s a multi-faith type of thing, it’s only still called OccupyChristmas because stuff has already been printed. #nycsc #ows

Someone suggests a potluck type of celebration. #nycsc #ows

Someone feels that some of the other budgets wasted, makes a statement that… I’m trying to follow, sorry. #nycsc #ows

Liza notes that Sebastian isn’t asking for money. #nycsc #ows

Sebastian also apologizes for all the bad stuff christians have ever done. #nycsc #ows

Someone suggests that instead of celebrating christmas, we celebrate 100 days of OWS. #nycsc #ows

Someone who looks like a rabbit comments that Christmas means something in america, it’s a family time… #nycsc #ows

… Christmas is especially painful for people who have nothing, it’s important to provide this for ppl who don’t have anything. #nycsc #ows

Sebastian notes that this will involve music and celebration, and you can bring musical instruments & if you have a spiritual conviction…

… about it, that’s great! #nycsc #ows

Someone encourages all of us to use our social media chops to spread the word about the Dec 25th celebration at #zuccotti! #nycsc #ows

Sebastian asks us to please help them with this… #nycsc #ows

Town Planning proposal! This is the companion piece to the Spoke-a-week proposal that passed on Monday. #nycsc #ows

@ProtestChaplain It’s not a matter of *letting* him, it’s already happening! He’s asking for active volunteers to help. @occupywallstnyc

Ok, onto the proposal! If you come to our events, use our resources, you agree to adhere to our standards (principles of solidarity). #nycsc

It applies to all of the meetings, including #GeneralAssembly. He’s asking #SpokesCouncil to ratify this for #SpokesCouncil…. #nycsc

@my_rubbersoul scroll back in the stream. #nycsc #ows

I think Safer Spaces is speaking, they want to restate the principles of solidarity, and want to clarify what severing relationships means.

Liza reads the Principles of Solidarity (you can find them on http://t.co/OzXDORvv. #nycsc #ows

RT @gomelanie: @LibertySqGA WOW is a caucus. @wowsnyc feel free to follow :)

@lobetsyh Sorry, someone who looks like a rabbi… durrrr.

Essentially, the principles of solidarity consist of non-violent, anti-racist, anti-oppression, anti-sexist principles, etc. #nycsc #ows

Someone wants to talk about the process, suggests that we talk about the process of severing ties, how can we put ppl out… #nycsc #ows

… we should have a process of inclusion rather than exclusion. That is his deep concern. #nycsc #ows

Proposer: it is his understanding that a process is going to be introduced at #GeneralAssembly tomorrow. Person sez we shld wait until…

…process is in place and then deal with this proposal. #nycsc #ows

There was a bit of back-n-forth, Sage reviews the process, a PoI talks about how a concern can be combined with a friendly amendment. #nycsc

Nan is agitated and says that Facilitation is trying to silence her. Her placard says “Dissolve #SpokesCouncil Working Group” #nycsc #ows

Minutes asks about the process, proposer says that there is no means of enforcement, that will come later. Recognizes that method of…

… enforcement is important and may make some ppl uncomfortable. #nycsc #ows

Someone wants to speak, but it’s unclear if she is a Spoke with a WG. #nycsc #ows

Tech: Wld like proposer to clarify whether we are establishing the fact that we could ask ppl to leave. #nycsc #ows

A: that is something that we might want to do, and that’s what this proposal is about. #nycsc #ows

Constitution WG asks whether community agreements are in the works & shouldn’t we wait for them? #nycsc #ows

Proposer: we have something to work with, we just are building something on top of that (not sure I got that one, sorry). #nycsc #ows

A: Right now the proposal doesn’t have a protocol for enforcement, this is giving us the ability to address the problem/ #nycsc #ows

Safer Spaces: If your WG hasn’t seen the working document that we have been working on for months, pls email us SaferSpaceOWS@gmail.com

That’s really important! It’s essentially an elucidation of our principles of solidarity. #nycsc #ows

NVC/Mediation: Who is making the determination of severing relationships? Is there going to be an effort to resolve things internally…

… before a severing of ties. #nycsc #ows

Faciliation: We have agreed on a consensus process, which Nan knows well, so let her be on stack for anything she wants. #nycsc #ows

Someone notes that Nan isn’t even a Spoke, and this is a SpokesCouncil. Liza: Nan is not honoring the request to speak on behalf of the WG.

This is simply to note that Nan signed in as Spoke for Strong Women Rules WG, but she was a spoke for SWRWG on Monday. http://t.co/VkhXHBgt

And someone notes that she Spoke’d for SWG WG on Monday. #nycsc #ows

Sage asks if anyone feels bullied, lots of ppl raise their hands. Nan says we’re marginalizing her. #nycsc #ows

Medics: I’m concerned about this because sometimes we accidentally become the “it”, we need to be careful of how we treat them… #nycsc

… I’m really concerned about this. In a group process, anybody can become the problem. #nycsc #ows

Nan asks if Town Planning has contacted PoC and other groups on this? A: Yes. I am working w Housing & Safety Cluster. #nycsc #ows

OK, stack is closed. We’re going to concerns – and we;re going to do concerns and friendly amendments together. #nycsc #ows

Strong Blockers Rule Working Group. #nycsc #ows http://t.co/A2RTR6Wm

Blockers Solidarity WG #nycsc #ows http://t.co/g1Ev8W5x

RT @DiceyTroop: And tonight @heratylaw is kicking out the livetweets on the @LibertySqGA family of accounts!! #nycsc #OWS

Negesti: We need to respect people’s past trauma and experiences and try to keep things from being contentious, suggests… #nycsc #ows

… taking out some of the language that might exacerbate the situation. A: All this says is that if you don’t agree with our principles…

… please leave the movement. Your suggestion wld be the subject of a separate proposal. #nycsc #ows

Solidarity: The concern is that there’s nothing backing up what is being proposed. Suggests they meet with a number of WGs. …. #nycsc #ows

A: I may accept that, and table this to tie this into what other WGs are doing about this situation. #nycsc #ows

Translation: Concerns previously raised, this prop is unacceptable unless there is a way to enforce (paraphrasing there). #nycsc #ows

Constitution: Big concern is that this is incomplete, and given that we’re unsure how to incorporate the community agreements… #nycsc #ows

… essentially he is asking them to table, too, until it is worked more. #nycsc #ows

PoC: This prop makes #OWS an entity, but it shld empower us as individuals. This may involve deeper issues that shld be addressed….

Environmentalist: Spokes is supposed to be a wheel and this wheel isn’t moving. I’ve been following, and praise to you for being here..

… all the time. We care so much that we won’t go forward with something that is imperfect, but we need to make movement forward… #nycsc

… I’ve been following the minutes, and certain names keep coming up more than others. To address the concerns here tonight… #nycsc #ows

… FA should have a deadline for coming up with the community agreements and a process. I suggest 2 wks, a month. #nycsc #ows

Occupiers WG: If you look at this language, it’s corporate language, two ppl have already left. It’s talking about doing business w #nycs

… with other businesses and I didn’t even know we were doing that. A: We’ve gone down that path already w OccupyFarms & others. #nycsc

OccupyDC (woot!): Suggests making a public announcement for tons of other WGs from other occupations (?) have input to cut down on… #nycsc

… amendment process. (Note: Not sure if I got that right, or how it fits in with this proposal). #nycsc #ows

(I’m sorry, I don’t generally relate language that is repetitive). Proposer: For example, we have never had a situation where someone…

… brought in guns, we have no way of dealing with that. It violates our principles, but what wld we do? #nycsc #ows

OccupyTheYouth: we need to share the community agreements. A: we have agreed upon the principles of solidarity. Other #Zuccotti-specific…

… rules, like drumming, but that doesn’t apply any more. #nycsc #ows

Safer Space, tmrw 5pm at 60 Wall, an open meeting collecting feedback on the “living document” of the community agreements. #nycsc #ows

Direct Action: Concerned that ppl don’t see how urgent this issue is. I’m really uncomfortable in this room b/c certain ppl dominate. #nycsc

I don’t feel safe (lotsa uptwinkles). #nycsc #ows

Nan again, from the Dispose Spokescouncil WG. Someone asks why she is Spoking. No answer. Says the proposal shld be tabled. #nycsc #ows

PoC would have a lot of input into this. You guys brought this way… b4 you reached out… to any working group. #nycsc #ows

PoI: PoC has to address this: Someone has a sign that says Aryan Brotherhood WG and it’s making things v uncomfortable. Ppl say it was…

… a joke. Stairs notes that they asked him to remove it before. Asks that the two WGs shld work it out. #nycsc #ows

Someone breaks process to say that the person with the sign shld leave, instead of the PoC caucus (they left). #nycsc #ows

Stairs: What just happened is extremely serious, I want someone from NVC/Mediation to step in and deal with this. We need to get back…

… to process. #nycsc #ows

(Note: We were just discussing a proposal to that would give us a process to remove disruptive ppl). #nycsc #ows

OccupyDC notes that he came here to encounter ppl who were working on a movement, but instead he is seeing fights. He’s very upset. #nycsc

Stairs notes that we need a moment, and let’s get back to the agenda. #nycsc #ows

Nan: where were you this morning, someone was almost dying at 60 Wall, we had to call 91. #nycsc #ows

Medic: Important! Look at me! If someone is dying, call 911! Do not rely on us for that. #nycsc #ows

another announcement: we have a bit of space, can’t tell you where yet, it will be a place where we can help you further. #nycsc #ows

RT @heratylaw: Announcement from Medical: set up a meeting to be held at 60 Wall every monday from 630-745pm. It is an open meeting, ple …

RT @heratylaw: … and let us know what you need. #nycsc #ows

BTW, I’m surrounded by @mikedelic, @dontbeaputz, @Dwayne_wins, & @DiceyTroop, they are adding #NYCSC tweets so follow them, too. #nycsc #ows

Town Planning has agreed to table the proposal, we will meet with more groups, and we have another proposal for Friday that will… #nycsc

… cover the shit that just happened here. #nycsc #ows

Looks like the rest of the agenda items are off the table b/c ppl left on account of the Aryan Brotherhood sign (which ppl say was a joke).

Looks like the official #Spokescouncil is over. We’re having a 30-minute un-facilitated conversation. @Dwayne_wins is going on stack…

… to discuss something. But Liza is stepping up and she is very upset. She wants us to keep working toward a better world. #nycsc #ows

She says she never points ppl out. But she cites Nan, says that she’s one of the ppl she’s talking about being disruptive & stopping…

… progress in this movement. #nycsc #ows

She discusses a proposal that specifically targeted Nan, and she thinks 1 person shldn’t be targeted b/c 1 other will just pop up. #nycsc

RT @DiceyTroop: So, Jay, w/ a very poor decision, made a point about inclusion by putting an “Aryan Nation” spoke sign up. Everyone frea …

@DiceyTroop Point taken, but I wasn’t saying it was a joke, I was saying other ppl were saying it was a joke. #nycsc #ows

Dwayne pulls Nan up so we can talk to her as a group. Dwayne: why do you hate #SC? Nan: Because of the racism (paraphrasing, sorry). #nycsc

Says nobody listens to her. Says there is racism, says she gets threatening text messages, but doesn’t relate it to #SC. #nycsc #ows

Dwayne reads the text message and it looks like it’s a message from a working group about a meeting. #nycsc #ows

They stand aside. Negesti speaks. She’s tired of being called names, being disrespected, she has a lot to contribute, but if.. #nycsc #ows

… we can’t get it together, she’s going to have to leave (note: we don’t want that). #nycsc #ows

… we’re all getting burned out. We need to get this together to make it a safe space so we can get things done. #nycsc #ows

PoC: I don’t think we decompressed from what happened here earlier. I’m not sure what to say, this isn’t a race thing, this is a room thing.

… Talking about it out on the street instead of in here isn’t the way to deal with that. #nycsc #ows

OK folks, I’m wrapping it up here. Thanks for following along! G’night! #nycsc #ows

RT @heratylaw: The Aryan Brotherhood sign in the garbage, where it belongs. http://t.co/F9fgufQC

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