Tweets for Thu, 23 Feb 2012

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Hi everyone! The GA is now beginning! Sully and Marissa will be facilitating tonight #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Is there anyone facilitating this for the first time? (someone raises hand) Yay! (we all applaud) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Does anyone have a problem with us facilitating? POP: I have a problem because of a proposal (Marissa) brought up #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So, let’s take consensus. (consensus taken) Everyone is comfortable with Marissa facilitating. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So, let’s continue (facilitation is now reviewing the process which can be viewed here http://t.co/LdZVMYaS #nycga #ows

Working group report backs are now beginning. #nycga #ows

Legal: We meet everyday at 3pm at Charlotte’s place. Please come out for legal information on preventing federal detention. #nycga #ows

StrongWomen: We have an NDAA discussion on March 3rd. I’ll be around see me or go to the site. #nycga #ows

WG: We’re meeting this Sunday and there will be an event called Glitterbomb Your Pussy. It’s also a camp food drive #nycga #ows

OpenSpaces: Tomorrow at 6 pm 235 W 23rd st. Come tomorrow and just talk about whatever you want. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: We have two items on the agenda for tonight. Afterwards, we’ll have announcements. #nycga #ows

Vision&Goals: I just want to make sure everyone has their voices represented in this. #nycga #ows

(btw, their proposal can be viewed here http://t.co/BDoXhbcm) #nycga #ows

VisionGoals: We’ve handed out a draft for the Occupy Wall Street Vision Statement & we’d like to ask everyone to examine … #nycga #ows

VisionGoals: ..the ‘people power’ bullet. Then, to break out in groups to discuss. #nycga #ows

Concern: This person shouldn’t be allowed to do this. She called the police on me for no reason. I originally came up with this #nycga #ows

Facilitation: This concern goes beyond the scope of this meeting. I’m sorry, but this is an outside issue. #nycga #ows

(We’re now in breakout groups discussing the People Power bullet) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So, we’re back. Let’s begin. #nycga #ows

Stack: My biggest concern is this never passed as a full document. I think the intent is good, but it’s difficult to analyze. #nycga #ows

Stack: There is no mention of economic equality. There is mention of democracy, but no direct democracy. #nycga #ows

Stack: There is no mention of self-determination of communities. If this is what is meant by ppl power, it’s poorly misguided. #nycga #ows

DirectResponse: We think you are here so you can give us your feedback. This is an open document. Do u have any FA’s? #nycga #ows

Stack: Well, if this is an open document, why not revise it together instead of bringing back FA’s, then having them thrown out? #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So it seems like there are several FA’s. Please go thru them. #nycga #ows

FA 1: That “no one is marginalized” replace one with ‘individual’ or ‘group.’ #nycga #ows

FA2: amend “where decision-making, in every form and at every level…” (trails off) downtwinkles #nycga #ows

FA3: add semi colon after… (inaudible) but many uptwinkles. FA1 and FA3 passed. #nycga #ows

FA4: add another section that states we accept and affirm the basic humanity of all people. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So, everyone heard. Temp check. #nycga #ows

(majority uptwinkles) Facilitation: Great, accepted. #nycga #ows

FA5: delete the word ‘alone’ #nycga #ows Facilitation: temp check on that? (uptwinkles) Good. Passed. #nycga #ows

Stack: i dont think the document is radical enough. people power is radical. also, we have someone here from Spain…#nycga #ows

Stack:.. who’s been working on this enough. it needs to be reworked. #nycga #ows

Stack: Also, by bringing possible revisions back to the small group, you’re kinda being the gatekeepers. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Ok, so we can either continue going around the room or directly address this issue. #nycga #ows

Patrick: We don’t desire to be the gatekeepers. there’s nothing we can do if we’re following the consensus process. #nycga #ows

Patrick: That’s why we bring it to you. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: I think we should take a straw poll on whether we should discuss the process itself or move on with the proposal. #nycga #ows

POI: The FA i made was approved by the GA, but then removed. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Let’s take a straw poll on the process itself — about how we’re going about this. #nycga #ows

(more uptwinkles to hear more report backs). #nycga #ows

FA6: remove the words “in every form and at every level” Facilitation: Let’s take a temp check (downtwinkles) #nycga #ows

FA7: add “promote apathy and greed” at the end of People Power. Facilitation: Temp check? (downtwinkles) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Okay, so neither of those were accepted. #nycga #ows

Stack: I propose we make a book on comments — that everyone can be included in this book. #nycga #ows

Stack: All I’m saying is a book is the only solution. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So it seems like you’re offering an alternative proposal, is that correct? Stack: Yes. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Okay, you’re going to have to bring that back as a new proposal for another day. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Okay, are there any standasides? (One) And any blocks (two) #nycga #ows

Block: The way this is passed is my concern. It’s not really a living document. #nycga #ows

Block2: Claiming as something as a living doc is false. Many people across the globe read this & it’s done as piecemail. #nycga #ows

Block2: Itll be translated long before these changes take place and it seems this isnt a thorough transparent process. #nycga #ows

Block3: I’m against the bullet point format. Also, is any1 moved by this? It’s just a general list pulled out of someone’s ass #nycga #ows

Block3: I don’t mean any disrespect, but this is my interpretation of it. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Alright, we’re going to move to modified consensus. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Please raise your hand if you are in support of this proposal despite the blocks. #nycga #ows

(counting begins) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Okay, now raise your hand if you are not in support. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Ok, so we did not reach modified consensus on that so it did not pass. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: At this point, we’re going to move on to our next agenda item. #nycga #ows

OccupyCaravan: We’re shifting the tone a bit. This is the 100th birth of American folk singer Woody Guthrie. #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: So, we want to stimulate a travel that brings awareness to economic justice. We hope it’s the first of several. #nycga #ows

(btw, the Occupy Caravan proposal can be viewed here http://t.co/7lwXpIfl) #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: We want to bring all the people participating in this across the country to Wall St to have a mass protest #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: Primarily, it’s designed for high visibility, outreach, and mass protest. Today, we ask for your support #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: We ask you to stand in solidarity with us. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: So the proposal is for OWS to stand in solidarity with OccCaravan. At this point, we ask you for questions. #nycga #ows

CQ: Sounds great. I just want to know if this will be an anti- or pro- Obama campaign… #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: No, it is not. #nycga #ows

CQ: If we pass your proposal, is OWS going to receive some percentage of the donations you receive? #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: This is a self driven issue. We ask you to join us and be part of those decisions. We ARE ows. #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: We are you & we have the same exact concerns. $ are concern, but we haven’t asked for any at this time. #nycga #ows

CQ: What vehicles would you like to use? OccCaravan: We have a green machine, but welcome any vehicles. #ows #nycga

Stack: How do u figure out what messages go out? OccCaravan: simple, we’ll stick with ows messages. #ows #nycga

Stack: what about gasoline? OccCaravan: great question. We arent asking for donations. Ppl will have to provide their own #ows #nycga

CQ: so youre not asking for $ from the GA? OccCaravan: No, we are not. We’re just asking for solidarity. #nycga #ows

CQ: what about a day of convergence? Facilitation: sounds like a FA which is up next #nycga #ows

Facilitation: How do folks feel about extending 10 min for concerns/FAs? (Uprwinkles) #nycga #ows

*uptwinkles #nycga #ows

Stack: We are not a centralized governing body. So, why is our support important? #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: bc we are ows, we believe in the process, and it will help us increase our visibility #nycga #ows

Stack: Can we tie this in with mayday? OccCaravan: In a way, this is part of it so we can add more ppl by spring & summer #nycga #ows

Stack: i’m concerned that this will be peaceful & nonviolent. OccCaravan: Yes, we dont want guns or drugs involved. #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: We want this to be a positive action. #nycga #ows

Stack: i’m concerned that some dumbass or that one idiot will jeopardize the movement. My FA is to take pics & post vids #nycga #ows

OccCaravan: FA accepted. #nycga #ows

Stack: What about mayday to be the end, the convergence? OccCaravan: We’ve decided on the dates, but we will bring it back l #nycga #ows

PoI: Solidarity will get you advertising. For example, @occupywallstnyc reaches hundreds of thousands. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: At this point, I want to see a tempcheck (uptwinkles). Ok, standasides (two) #nycga #ows

StandAside: just concerned. I dont want u to get hijacked by the tea party. #nycga #ows

StandAside2: I know u have a website but can u work with ows media? OccCaravan: Yes. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Are there any blocks? (None) Alright! The proposal passes! (Cheers) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: We now have an addl proposal but we must consensus on whether it’s an emergency proposal. #nycga #ows

ER Proposal: I want to ask the GA for a generator being held in SIS or wherever. Im an occupier. I need help #nycga #ows

Facilitation: I need a temp check on whether this is an emergency proposal. (Uptwinkles) ok, lets move forward with stack. #nycga #ows

Stack: Is there anyone here with info on functional generators? #nycga #ows

Facilitation: I do believe there are some that are working. nycga #ows

Stack: How long do you need them? A: about a month and a half. #nycga #ows

Stack: What about a sustainable generator, is that enough? A: Not at this time, but maybe in the future. #nycga #ows

Stack: Who does it belong to? Facilitation: It is ows property. #nycga #ows

Stack: Have u tried thru sanitation? A: if i receive the generator, it can help house 10 other ppl & move forward the process #nycga #ows

Stack: you say u were arrested 3 months ago, what have u been doing? A: i was in jail for 2 months & the bank took… #nycga #ows

A: the money i owed them. CQ: Jail for 2 mo.? A: Yes and also a psychiatric unit. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: whats the legal status of the generator? A: it belongs to my mom. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: why is it a 24 hr emergency proposal if it’s been 2 mo. ?

A: Because people are coming in tomorrow for a kickstarter proj and wont be able to plug in #nycga #ows

A: The project is extensive and just need the generator to help. CQ: How will u transport it? #nycga #ows

A (an occupier): I have transportation and can help her.

Stack: What are the logistics of the house? A: 2 floors, 12 rooms, garage, but it has to go thru the landlord who is my mom. #nycga #ows

Stack: I dont think this is an emergency proposal & no external factor changing the timeline. #nycga #ows

A: I was going to fix it on my own, but the bank took all the $ i had. Thats why Im at the GA #nycga #ows

PoI: We decided, as a GA, this is an emergency proposal. (Uptwinkles) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Lets move forward with consensus. Tempcheck? (Uptwinkles). Ok, standasides (two) #nycga #ows

StandAside: What if your mom says no? A: As it stands, it’s just to get me thru the winter. #nycga #ows

StandAside2: I would just like someone to go to the house to make sure it’s safe. #nycga #ows

Facilitation: Are there any blocks? (One) #nycga #ows

Block: I believe in our process & believe there is no external factor demanding that this is an emergency proposal. #nycga #ows

FA: Can we put it on the site? A: whats the earliest it will be posted? FA: saturday. A: I decline the FA. #nycga #ows

Facilitaton: At this point, we move to modified consensus. All those in favor raise your hand (now counting) #nycga #ows

Facilitation: 31. Okay, now against. (3). Ok, modified consensus passes! #nycga #ows

Announcements: On wed 29th, mar 1st and 5th are natl days of direct actions. #nycga #ows

Annc: Tomorrow ill be holding DA training at Columbia University at hamilton hall 3-6pm. #nycga #ows

Annc: I would like to see more faces at the park. Bring your guitar, bring yourselves! #nycga #ows

Okay, the GA has ended! Thanks for sticking with us! Rest well, everyone. #nycga #ows

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