Tweets for Thu, 22 Dec 2011

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RT @alexisgoldstein: @LibertySqGA Here’s the statement in solidarity with the Egyptian protestors: http://t.co/nXc56ejq

RT @heratylaw: Yes, @freecycle rocks – to give AND receive. @northernspyfood: Finally discovered @freecycle. Emptying crap out of baseme …

RT @heratylaw: .@freecycle is a network connecting ppl getting rid of useful stuff to ppl who cld use that stuff, all for free, saving i …

RT @OccupyNewark: We need (1) 24ft or (2) 14ft 2x4s to connect the top beam of the military tent. If anyone could help out email info@oc …

RT @OWScom: Call 855-692-4241 toll-free for real-time voice access to http://t.co/7fsThaPh events schedule and announcements.#OWS

RT @DaynaR: FYI, GA starts at 8 tonight.

RT @DaynaR: FYI, GA starts at 8 tonight.

RT @OWScom: Call 855-692-4241 toll-free for real-time voice access to http://t.co/7fsThaPh events schedule and announcements.#OWS

Welcome to another GA! Jackson from Occupy Seattle will be helping with facilitation 2night. #nycga #ows

RT @Dwayne_wins: Not many ppl at GA yet. Started late. We are at 56 Walker Street #ows #nycga

We begin with meditation. #ows #nycga http://t.co/WeVo5fjr

RT @Dwayne_wins: In a few moments Im going to go live from #NYCGA the general assembly at 56 Walker St. We are just getting set up. #ows …

“This is a chance to bring ourselves together and to reconnect with ourselves, each other, and our purpose.” #ows #nycga

Right now there is a debate on whether or not we should meditate. #ows #nycga

After much yelling, it seems we will no longer do facilitation so others wont feel marginalized. #ows #nycga

Stairs is trying to continue… #ows #nycga

Stairs: 1st proposal is from Occupy Dignity #ows #nycga

OccDig: Im not feeling safe right now. Can we please have a little more kindness right now? #ows #nycga

OccDig: 24 hr vigil starting Xmas on the 25th. It will begin at 3pm. #ows #nycga

OccDig: We ask for $800 for food, $300 for water, $400 for hot drinks, $200 for rain ponchos, & $450 for travel cards #ows #nycga

Stairs: Stack is now open for clarifying questions. #ows #nycga

CQ: I love the proposal. Is all this money necessary? A: Well, we dont know how else to go about it. Can u help? #ows #nycga

CQ: Yes if course, but i will vote yes regardless. #ows #nycga

CQ: Last night i was uncomfortable bc i found an aryan nation card and you (the proposer) laughed. I dont feel safe around you. #ows #nycga

A: We all have different sense of humors… (he was cut off) #ows #nycga

Multiple arguments breaking out. Stairs trying to regain facilitation process. #ows #nycga

Stairs: I cant make this GA feel safe. Thats up to you guys so please make that possible. #ows #nycga

CQ: Nan- i lost all respect for u Jason (facilitator). After u laughed about the poster, i think u should apologize. #ows #nycga

The People’s Kitchen’s contact information is here: http://t.co/7TgTirvp and @OWS_Kitchen #ows #nycga @blogdiva

Nan: i dont feel safe with him running the Christmas event. #ows #nycga

Multiple side conversations are now taking place. #ows #nycga

Stairs is trying to refocus everyone. #ows #nycga

More arguments have broken out. Someone mic-checks. “It is not fair to silence anyones voice.” #ows #nycga

“Please stop interrupting people.” #ows #nycga

CQ: why is the food $800? What is in those ingredients? #ows #nycga

Process is being broken every 5 minutes. #ows #nycga

Stairs announces stack is closed, yet process continues being disrupted. #ows #nycga

PoI: Process was created to get through proposals. The same people cannot continue breaking process. #ows #nycga

Stairs: Are there any concerns? #ows #nycga

PoI: If you dont feel safe and dont like the xmas proposal, you dont have to be here or participate in the party #ows #nycga

Concern: We are always on camera. So to hold up a sign like that (aryan sign) is just a bad idea. #ows #nycga

Stairs: Are there any blocks? #ows #nycga

(None) Are there any friendly amendments? (One) #ows #nycga

Stairs: Ok. There are a few. Kyle. Start. #ows #nycga

Kyle: i offer that this is a holiday get together because not everyone celebrates christmas. #ows #nycga

Proposer: Yes. although it’s on the 25th, it’s really to celebrate the 100 days of occupy. #ows #nycga

(The friendly amendment passes) #ows #nycga

(Next FA): IM not for or against xmas. But i dont like the way he handled the sign issue last night. I dont want him running it. #ows #nycga

Stairs: Stack is now closed #ows #nycga

(Scratch that. 2 more) #ows #nycga

FA: I propose if u can donate clothes, please bring some. Second, i feel we should all sit down & talk about where we come from #ows #nycga

(On that Sunday) #ows #nycga

OccDig restating proposal #ows #nycga

OccDig: beginning xmas eve at midnight, we’d like to hold a 24 hr vigil to celebrate 100 days of occupying… #ows #nycga

OccDig: And that we’ll accept clothing donations that day #ows #nycga

Stairs: Okay, are there any blocks? (There are two) #ows #nycga

Block1: Nan – I want remediation with the proposer. Once thats done, ill withdraw #ows #nycga

Proposer accepts, block is withdrawn. #ows #nycga (second block is gone as well)

Stairs: Okay! Proposal for celebrating 100 days of Occupy passes! #ows #nycga

Now religious discussions are being resumed. Proposer states we honor anyone who wants to celebrate any way they want #ows #nycga

But that day we’re celebrating 100 days of occupy. #ows #nycga

Stairs: i just want to point out we set aside 20 min yet 45 min passed #ows #nycga

Next proposal is from labor #ows #nycga

(Labor is handing out motions on paper) #ows #nycga

Labor: We need to help the unions who helped us on #d17 #ows #nycga

Labor: Our motion is to create the largest strike on december 28th #ows #nycga

Labor: We think it’s time to say thanks to 32BJ when they decide to strike in solidarity. #ows #nycga

Stairs: Stack is now open for clarifying questions #ows #nycga

Progressive stack in effect #ows #nycga

CQ: How do u want occupy participate and where? A: Do what uve always done & duarte #ows #nycga

CQ: is this an illegal march? A: No, we’re following our union rules #ows #nycga

JackRabbit: is this is a proposal that needs to be consensed on? A: yes #ows #nycga

@YashBoone Why not what?

Adele: I would like to have more of a plan that can be galvanized instead of some random event #ows #nycga

Jarrod: Im concerned whether or not this info is correct. Can we please have it verified? #ows #nycga

Nan: I like marching. Especially against the police, but it seems it’s not organized. So how is it organized? #ows #nycga

@YashBoone From what I understand, a cpl ppl thought it was oppressive. That’s all I know.

Labor: We have shifts beginning at 9 am. Youll see shop stewards & theyll guide u. #ows #nycga

Anthony: Can u talk with (inaudible) so we can plan and avoid arrests? #ows #nycga

(Cheers and wooos!) #ows #nycga

Labor: lets get together after the meeting. #ows #nycga

(We’re now taking a break. Dance party and pizza) #ows #nycga http://t.co/CGgxAeoH

Accounting: We’ve been getting receipts where alot of personal expenses were being covered by WGs money. #ows #nycga

Accounting: So if youre painting all day and get hungry. Put it in your minutes & post it online. #ows #nycga

Accounting: If u need help with taking minutes, come to us or others and ask them. #ows #nycga

Accounting: I would love for ows to help me pay for coffee , but i dont know. Im opening this proposal to u #ows #nycga

Acct: We encourage everyone not to use money for their own personal expenses. #ows #nycga

Stack: What is not ok? Male says to female lets get some food. U like ows? Ur in ows… #ows #nycga

Stack: Lets create the Horny & Hungry working group. Now lets do minutes to cover the expenses #ows #nycga

(People laugh) #ows #nycga

Accounting: No that cannot happen. Consensus needs to be reached by many in the group. #ows #nycga

Stack: Can we combine the $100/day? #ows #nycga

Acct: So, the $100 is not per diem. If u spend $120, youre eating the $20 bucks #ows #nycga

Acct: This is something that was agreed upon by you guys, the GA #ows #nycga

Stack (Nan): Our group doesnt work like that. With that, do we still need to create minutes? #ows #nycga

Acct: Nan, in that situation, consensus upon it, we can work with your group, & upload the minutes #ows #nycga

Acct: Id also like to add, many of you have asked us for transparency & accountability. We ask the same from your WGs. #ows #nycga

Acct: We ask you to post them on your working groups nycga.net minutes page #ows #nycga

Lisa: Do ppl need to say who was at that meeting? #ows #nycga

Acct: Yes i think so. The best minutes will have who was there. #ows #nycga

Hero: I think the daily budget goes for that mtg. But other groups run around & we buy stuff on the run #ows #nycga

Hero: So, what about those circumstances? #ows #nycga

Hero: When (any WG) is running around, i cant have a meeting, but i have a receipt. What then? #ows #nycga

Acct: At a weekly meeting, you can discuss these things in advance. #ows #nycga

Acct: We dont feel it’s ethical for us to making monetary decisions for all WGs. Thats why we’re bringing it to u guys. #ows #nycga

Progressive stack is now open for concerns #ows #nycga

Stack: How do we know how to define items? A: Right now we’re talking about food & trying to make it fair, but each WG can.. #ows #nycga

A: reach consensus on certain things #ows #nycga

Stairs: Be mindful of how much time we have left. #ows #nycga

Evelyn: Im with human rights. And i think we should start from somewhere. #ows #nycga

PoI: U know we have places that serve lunch. lets begin using them for food. #ows #nycga

Wayne: So, a working group can essentially come together and just arrnge minutes. Essentially, it doesnt change the status quo #ows #nycga

Jeff: Everytime we come here, we’re always talking about money. I mean, ppl are doing serious protesting & getting shot #ows #nycga

Jeff: So that was my process. #ows #nycga

Stack: I suggest accounting meet with WGs to create something before we decide. #ows #nycga

Acct: We didnt want to be gatekeepers. We have open meetings all the time but no one, not even those who argue, comes #ows #nycga

Ashley: I feel that many of the WGs that will be affected are not present & should be presenr #ows #nycga

(Present) #ows #nycga

Stack for friendly amendments now open #ows #nycga

poI: 855 nycga 411 is the number for info #ows #nycga

Kyle: I like the proposal bc these funds were designed to be used by the WG for the WG. So lets mandate a wkly mtg #ows #nycga

Stack: Id like to make an FA where Accting makes an FAQ with best practices (accepted) #ows #nycga

Stack: I suggest after one week of this proposal, extra money be sent to those fighting in Egypt #ows #nycga

Acct: Unfortunately, thats a separate proposal and not an amendment to ours. #ows #nycga

Stack: Many dont have access to computers. Why not create a kickstarter? #ows #nycga

Stairs: we have a PoI and technically, that wasnt friendly amendment. #ows #nycga

Stack: We should not be allowing any food expenditures. #ows #nycga

PoI: Multiple WG members are homeless. I think there isnt adequate time for discussions on mtgs. #ows #nycga

Acct: Back to the friendly amendment on food receipts, we’ll redact that. We’ll leave the decision to WGs on what they consensus on #nycga

Acct: We’re a fking movement to change the world. Practice high ethical standards. #ows #nycga

(Acct now restating proposal) We want WGs to create minutes for items they purchase and we’ll post FAQs #ows #nycga

Stairs: Are there any blocks? (There are five) #ows #nycga

Acct: Okay. If u are blocking, make sure it’s not anything personal and practice some personal reponsibility #ows #nycga

RT @Newyorkist: ☛ @NYCLU: If u have photo/video of TARU recording lawful protest, email them to protest@nyclu.org subject line “TARU” ht …

Block1: Many in my WG are homeless.im blocking on behalf of them. #ows #nycga

Block1: also, many WG are not here to say anything #ows #nycga

Acct: We just passed $10K budget for kitchen to supply food. They can go there. Food is there #ows #nycga

Block2: My friend just passed something in our group, but shes still in the process for covering expenses… #ows #nycga

Block2:..and i feel her process will be disupted by this new proposal #ows #nycga (people seem confused)

Hero: what does everyone think about facilitation? Can we do a tempcheck for switching out(uptwinkles) #ows #nycga

(Hero is now facilitating) #ows #nycga

Stairs: A block is suppose to be for ethical concerns and these blocks are not ethical #ows #nycga

Many arguments have broken out #ows #nycga

Stairs: We have 30 seconds for the next block. There is another mtg scheduled and we dont want to cut into their time #ows #nycga

More arguments have erupted #ows #nycga

Stairs: please, lets listen to nans block #ows #nycga

Nan: Diego… if u give me a hug, ill lift my block #ows #nycga

(Nan and diego embrace, everyone laughs and claps) #ows #nycga

Stairs: So there are 4 more blocks, lets try to finish #ows #nycga

Stack: if we’re putting up the same social constructs we’re against, then wtf are we doing. Minutes for food? #ows #nycga

Stack: Not everyone is as strong as you guys. some of us are sick #ows #nycga

(Man and woman interrupt) you dont even understand the proposal lady #ows #nycga

Stairs regains control: Okay. Respect please. #ows #nycga

(We’re now moving to modified consensus) #ows #nycga

Stairs: ok, after taking a count, the proposal has passed with over 90% consensus #ows #nycga

That’s it for tonight’s GA! Thanks for sticking with us! TechOps is next & are showcasing their new system… #ows #nycga

…if u want to learn more, stick around for the extra coverage right here. Thanks again <3 @jopauca

RT @OWS_Tech: Here comes the #TechOps mock #GeneralAssembly, complete with lots of Tech Toys. For a play-by-play, follow @LibertySqGA

This is the display for the new system currently being showcased by TechOps http://t.co/wKrSmctR

This is also the other part of the design http://t.co/G13qeJ3P

TechOps: Our system is not to replace process, but to help process.

TechOps: This system is used by many public institutions and we believe it will help immensely

Right now, remote controls are being handed out to help voting.

This is the device we’re currently testing. http://t.co/vhE9qyk0

TechOps: So, lets begin with a test. This is a test. http://t.co/pkLj5O7f

@OWS_Tech u got it!

Please show some follow love to @OWS_Tech team who have helped develop the system currently being showcased. #techops

#TechOps: We are open source whores. That means we love software that is free! #TechOps

#TechOps: when i go to sleep, all i think of is how to develop something for the GA.

#TechOps: By pressing the 1/10 button, the system automatically and anonymously logs you in. http://t.co/E3ju4tGe

#TechOps: You’ll be able to see all the votes youve ever made.

#TechOps: Now we hear about hacked votes, so lets talk about concerns

#TechOps: so lets get into electronic voting — tho i hate that word, its what we’re essentially doing at the GA

#TechOps: Now there is a concern. What prevents someone from voting 3, 4, or 5 times. Right now there isnt but we’re working on it.

#TechOps: Still, lets look at this technology’s potential. Eventually, these bugs will be ironed out

#TechOps: You can press 1 to get into stack, 2 for blocks, 3 for FA’s.

(Btw, if i land in twitter jail, head over to @libertysqga2)

#TechOps so how can the system be gamed? Well, it’s an honor system. So lets vote with the remote..

#TechOps: 1 is not important, 3 neutal , 5 critically important. (Voting taking place- 24 so far)

#TechOps: oh. Clarification. The remote will only count one vote per remote.

#TechOps: and these are the results of the votes we just took! (Do check out this photo) http://t.co/vfp9DcmC

We just voted on “how important is electronic voting?” Check out the results http://t.co/UrjvwAWN

On the fly question: how happy are u with spokes? #TechOps

And these are the results where 1 is unhappy and 5 is very happy. #TechOps http://t.co/FKgmTZDK

#TechOps: In the future, we also plan to incorporate motion and animations.

#TechOps: can this do progressive stack? You better believe this can.

#TechOps: Now, on this computer you see time. Just as we allocate 15 min for proposals, this screen will help us keep track of time.

(This is the screen displaying the time limits) #TechOps http://t.co/BbS2YxWr

And this device will help with texting. #TechOps http://t.co/XkYRVhPM

#TechOps: so lets imagine we’re returning from breakout groups. we can text this info into our database and do much w/ this data!

#TechOps: so lets take a vote on how important are price vs features and US vs China

Here is the question on the ppt #TechOps http://t.co/GOXqXjXM

And here are the results! #TechOps http://t.co/NN8C6kcy

#TechOps: So that’s it folks! Thanks again (met with applause)

Thanks again for staying with us. If you’d like to contact #TechOps reach them at tech.nycga.net or email at tech@nycga.net. Rest well

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