Tweets for Thu, 19 Jan 2012

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Hey fam! We’re back! Not to fear; we haven’t yet been #SOPAed. “Live”tweets of tonight’s #Spokescouncil meeting go up tmrw. #nycsc #OWS

RT @OccupyWallStNYC: We are back. Here’s why we went DARK: http://t.co/MouXyo6N #BlackoutSOPA #NoSOPA #KillPIPA

http://t.co/OM5HAD2O MT @justinstoned: @libertysqga Kinda weird to make your Service/ Work to #nycsc into a protest. #sopa

RT @OccupyWallStNYC: Even @LibertySqGA went dark for #SOPABlackout, and saved hundreds of livetweets! Thanks for not crossing the picket …

@justinstoned not at all, just explaining the simple reasoning. Thank you for your comment.

@justinstoned we’re volunteers; our team consensed. We didn’t stop others from LTing, warned folks we’d be dark. Sorry to offend.

Just counted and sorted 582 tweets from tonight’s #NYCSC! Never counted before. We’ll spend a couple hours tomorrow sending them out. #OWS

OK fam! Today, we’re “airing” Wednesday nite’s #NYCSC! We’re livetweeting on a delay! It’s the opposite of that live episode of ER… #OWS

Jason Ahmadi and Nicole will facilitate tonight. “Does anyone have any issues with that?” Someone: website said 7:30; it’s 7:09. #NYCSC #OWS

Nicole: “OK, so we’re not starting, then!” Jason: “We’ll start at 7:30 promptly.” Til then, “we’re just gonna hang out,” Nicole says. #nycsc

Jason & Nan discuss the proposal expected tonight to ask Nan to leave the #NYCSC. Nan: “All Spokescouncil does is bitch about ppl.” #OWS

Nan sits down. “I’ve got a team on the way, so I’m just going to enjoy the show.” Nan guffaws. “I love being Nan sometimes.” #OWS #NYCSC

“I can’t wait for #SpokesCouncil to be dissolved,” Nan says to someone. “Because you’re all a bunch of hypocrites.” #NYCSC #OWS

“I just love beating up on Facilitation. I love being mean. I just love being the center of attention,” Nan continues. #NYCSC #OWS

“I’m going to be doing some yelling, too. We’ll see. We’ll see if I have to be my typical Nan…” [Sorry, but she's sitting right next to me.]

OK, it’s 7:30! Here we go. Facilitators checking to make sure all WGs’ Spokes signed in to comply w/ once-a-week rule for that role. #nycsc

Jason: “So, as agreed before, Nicole & I will facilitate today. Calvin’ll be our stacktaker & Steve..” Nicole: “Is going to be timekeeper.”

Jason: “I request that people heed our timekeeper & that only spokes speak. Are people willing to do that?” Yes! “& no side convos.” #NYCSC

Jason: “I’d like to bring back a facilitation tool: raise your fist in silence.” Lets us “bring the room back,” when we all do it. #nycsc

Jason: “So, there were 5 agenda topics brought fwd to the facilitation team. 1′s a continuation of facilitation’s proposal to…” #NYCSC #OWS

Cont’d: “…limit the number of Spokescouncils. Another is a discussion about how the spending freeze affects #NYCSC…” #OWS

Cont’d: “…another is to bring back discussion of Archive’s perpetually-tabled $ proposal. Another’s to resume the Safer Spaces prop.” #NYCSC

Cont’d: “…& another is from Outreach dealing with, um… disruptive behavior & the process of removing people from Spokescouncil.” #NYCSC #OWS

Stairs note that b/c Archives and the discussion on the spending freeze are very similar, they’re hoping to table for another #NYCSC. #OWS

(Stairs is our shorthand for the facilitation team as a whole, though generally tonight we’ll probably refer to Nicole and Jason by name.)

CQ: “RE: zero tolerance for side conversations – what’s the accountability?” Jason: “I’ll use my de-escalation techniques..” #OWS #NYCSC

Cont’d: “…to make that stop.” Nicole: Use the raised fist signal “so we can all remind each other to not hv side conversations.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “Also, you might find me just stopping talking, and pausing. Or walking to the person who’s talking & just stand there.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “The way we’d discussed working this agenda out:” 30min of reportbacks, 30 minutes of Facilitation’s proposal, 1 hour of… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…the safer spaces and community agreements, and an hour of Outreach discussion of disruptive behavior.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “If we take longer, and we aren’t able to come to consensus within these timeframes, they will be tabled.” Any questions? #nycsc #ows

Ravi suggests the Outreach proposal should go “1st rather than last. It has bearing on our ability to talk about anything else.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “So the proposal is to move the hr on disruptive behavior to the beginning, with caveat that if…” #NYCSC #OWS

Cont’d: “…we can’t finish within an hour, we’ll table it.” A disruption is happening outside, someone yells “de-escalation!” #nycsc #ows

Several people run for the other room to de-escalate. Someone is very angry outside, I have no idea why. #nycsc #ows

Jason suggests that “I’d like to add some levity to the situation.” He asks that everyone stand… conflict outside very distracting. #nycsc

(Note that as we tweet, Twitter’s rate limits will kick in & we’ll have to move to @LibertySqGA2, @LibertySqGA3, and @LibertySqGA4.) #NYCSC

Now airing: last nite’s #Spokescouncil, delayed by #SOPAstrike. MT @mikecane: Is GA happening live now or are these tweets from last night?

Jason: “I’d like to own that as facilitator, this is very hard for me as well.” Notes our attn “is directed in the other room.” #nycsc #ows

There’s some discussion of pausing the meeting during disruption; ppl really want to keep going tho. We’ll start w/ reportbacks. #nycsc #ows

First, @PolicyStats notes “I’m working on a portrait series of occupiers who’ve been arrested.” He’ll pass around contact info. #nycsc

“I’d also like to take pictures of this mtg – that’s a different thing.” As we often do, we ask invididuals to indicate discomfort w/ film.

CQ: “What’s the other project?” A: “The portrait series is for a possible exhibit. The general #Occupy photos are something I’ve…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…been doing for months, & I generally just put them online. I’ll do my best to avoid people who” indicated discomfort. #nycsc #ows

First report back: Kitchen. “Um…” He pauses, the commotion is distracting. “Anyhow, I’m giving my reportback.. Just to give…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…people kind of an update on where Kitchen is: we’re trying to be more mobile, b/c as a movement that’s what we’ve become.” #NYCSC

Cont’d: “But we’re also looking into spaces. And different vehicles we can look at– a truck, a vending vehicle…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…and also an actual space. And the reason it’s taken so long is we need to get a non-profit to help us get that space.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “But we also wanted to make an announcement to see if anyone would be interested in starting a breakout group.” #nycsc #ows

“Maybe this summer, to have a permit for a free concert in Central Pk, & to get #OWS organizers together & musicians who want to support.”

If you want to get involved in any of that or in kitchen, get at occupiedkitchen@gmail.com ! #nycsc #ows

(The room is very, very tense; we couldn’t all see what was going on outside but there was a prolonged physical altercation.) #nycsc #ows

Nicole says she wants to take “a second, a beat,” to “acknowledge something that happened. Let’s take a collective breath, and then…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..move on. Unexpected, but these things happen.” Next Reportback: Picture the Homeless. #nycsc #ows

Picture the Homeless: “I want to make it clear that we are in the house, and we want to let you know when we’re in the house.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “And we want people to understand that Picture the Homeless has been here from the beginning, through Bloombergville…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…and Occupy Wall Street.” He says our problems stem from not dealing w/ reality. “We know all about the certain variety of…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…people in your domiciles that you call homeless.” We’ll need PtH, he says, to help try to “keep ppl from taking advantage of..”

Cont’d: “…the movement.” Safer Spaces working group is next: “We’ve been working on the community agreement.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “We had a really productive discussion Sun for about 3 hours, so the latest revision, we’re going to present tonight.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “And if future report backers could come to the middle, that would help us all here in this somewhat tenuous situation.” #nycsc #ows

Next, Vision & Goals, Sumumba. “I’d like to thank everyone who was at the GA last night; we got a preliminary consensed-upon…” #nycsc #OWS

Cont’d: “…vision stment, of the vision of #OWS. We’re no longer taking new feedback, but if you’re interested in looking at our…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…document,” he has copies. “We had a unanimous twinkling; it was a good night, and we’d humbly just thank you because the…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…world is waiting to see what #OWS stands for.” Notes after vision, “we still have the goals” to develop. #nycsc #ows

Alejandro asks if Vision and Goals will be doing breakouts at GA tmrw. A: “No, we’ll be back Tuesday for the final consensing.” #nycsc #ows

That’s it for reportbacks! Moving onto the agenda. Jason: “Thank you! So, we had a proposal, or an amendment to the agenda that..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…was brought, to move the disruptive behavior proposal from the end to the beginning. We wanted it at the end…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…because it’s a contentious topic we’ve never dealt with in our movement. Wanted to get through other topics first.” #nycsc

But we’ll take a temperature check to see, “do folks want to move the question of disruptive behavior to the beginning?” #nycsc #ows

Spokes will check in with their working groups, and raise their spoke sign if they consent to move Outreach to top of agenda. #nycsc #ows

ARA has a CQ: “We don’t know anything about Outreach proposal; we do know about Safer Spaces’. Why does it have to be…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…before Safer Spaces’ proposal, which will address “disruptors” as well?” Jason asks folks to quiet side conversations. #nycsc #ows

Jason: “As a facilitator, I feel empowered to note that I saw many up twinkles and many down twinkles, so I think we should move ahead…”

Cont’d: “…with the agenda as planned.” So, we’ll move to the facilitation proposal to cut back on meetings, first, as planned. #nycsc #ows

Brian notes that Facilitation originally would propose both GA and Spokes would meet 1 fewer day, but instead split it into two. #nycsc #ows

Brian: “The proposal’s extremely simple; it reduces #Spokescouncil to 2 meetings/week, Monday and Wednesday instead of MWF.” #nycsc #ows

Brian: “It also acknowledges that going forward SC can either increase or decrease its meeting schedule as it sees fit.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “OK, so we’re going to check back in with our groups, discuss this proposal, and see if we have any clarifying questions on this.”

Brian restates. “Without getting into the specifics of why Facilitation wanted to bring the proposal, it’s very simple…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “..it proposes to reduce the number of Spokescouncil meetings from 3 to 2 a week.” Mon+Weds instead of Mon+Weds+Fri. #nycsc #ows

Brian: “There’s a lot of weight on us meeting every night.” OK, WGs now breaking out to discuss before stacks open. #nycsc

Jason: “OK, we’re back.” RE: the disruption, “We’re going to take some time to deal with this situation” after this current proposal. #nycsc

Stairs opens stack on clarifying questions. “So, if you’d like to get on stack about clarifying questions on this proposal, we’d…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…love you to do so at this time.” Ravi and Jeff are loudly pressing Jason to deal with the earlier situation first. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “I think the issue is we cannot move forward unless this is a safe space.” Ravi notes “someone took a swing at facilitation Friday..”

Cont’d: “..and several ppl were attacked just now.” Jason: “We’re all very uncomfortable with the situation. We will deal with this…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…situation — I promise you that. But we’ll get through this, and then deal with it.” Ravi alleges the attacker stays at church.

Someone notes “he said he was going to murder me.” Nan: “Stop lying, he didn’t say that.” “How dare you call me a liar?” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “Because of the opposition, I want to take the entire group’s temp check on my facilitator’s opinion of finishing this..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…proposal, and then dealing with the situation, or the alternative is to table this proposal, deal w/ it now.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “Are people comfortable w/ me continuing with this?” Notes he’s seeing a very mixed response. Ravi is speaking over him. #nycsc #ows

Ravi: “I can’t be here if we don’t deal w/ it. I’m leaving and never coming back. I’m a survivor of abuse.” “I can’t live like this.” #nycsc

Someone steps up, interjects o-o-p: “As someone who’s here for the very first time, can I say something?” Everyone is like “No.” #nycsc #ows

He does, tho: “Call police, & have the fucker arrested.” “We tried that,” someone notes. Ravi is taking autonomous action to… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: …guard the door. Stairs try to open stack for clarifying question, but accept a point of process from Outreach. #nycsc #ows

Outreach: “I feel very unsafe in this space currently. What are you going to do for me?” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “I also feel unsafe.” But thinks we should slow down, take care of this and then after calm, talk about the proposal. #nycsc #ows

Jason: “This is me as a facilitator taking this decision, and we’re going to do it. OK?” Now moving to clarifying questions. #nycsc #ows

First CQ: Direct Action. “Will we have impromptu assemblies?” A: “Sounds like you mean how SC and GA can decide meeting schedule…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…it just means that if they want to have their meetings on certain days or number of days, they can decide that.” #nycsc #ows

PoP: “When facilitation took that temperature check, it was only on one side. If you have two options, it should be a straw poll.” #nycsc

PoP cont’d: “Also, it was unclear.” Nicole: “Can we take a temperature check on that being unclear?” Yeah, ppl agree. #nycsc #ows

Nicole says we’ll take a straw poll. Lopi raises concern: “We don’t all have information on what happened. We’d like to know.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “Can we take 15 seconds right now for everyone to calm down? We have a lot of passionate feelings.” #nycsc #ows

Brooke witnessed the entire thing. “What I saw happen… one of the men who was an occupier went in to get a Metrocard, and was surprised..”

Cont’d: “…to find that there weren’t any more left for occupiers, and was upset to find that he was too late to get a metro card.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “He got upset at that, and he snatched a card, and there was some verbal back and forth, and there was some physical…”

Cont’d: “…back and forth, and there wasn’t particularly good de-escalation, to be honest w/ you. And the scuffle went into [another] room…”

Cont’d: “…more people got involved and tried to de-escalate, but there was a lot of emotion.” He first knocked the food table over… #nycsc

Cont’d: “…then the computer table, and then Nan and others helped de-escalate him out the door. The police were called, and…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…they were making threats, & there was concern abt whether they have a weapon & that they’re sleeping in the same shelter…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..people had mixed feelings about that, and they came in and asked if they were going to press charges, but no one wanted…”

Cont’d: “…to, and then there were questions about whether to press charges around the metrocard, but they weren’t [pressed].” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “I think an individual volunteered the $ to cover the Metrocard, & that’s what happened. Now there are concerns the individual..”

Cont’d: “…that the person was threatened by is sleeping in same shelter. And so there’s concern about whether to bring that here, b/c…”

Cont’d: “…it’s unclear as to whether the people at the shelter can take unilateral action to ask them not to stay there, b/c…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…the other individual feels unsafe abt staying in the shelter where the other individual may or may not have a weapon.” #nycsc #ows

CQ: “If there’s a rumor that they have a weapon, I’d like to know who it is.” A: “It’s Will.” “The occupier.” His friend claimed he had one.

Nicole: “OK. Everybody’s on the same knowledge level as to what happened. So the question was to take action now, to empower…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…a unilateral decision to prevent individual from going to housing, or whether to continue what we’re working on” 1st. #nycsc #ows

Nicole asks for hands if we want to talk about this right now. “OK. I see. I see that. So, just for transparency’s sake, raise your hand…”

Cont’d: “…if you’d like to continue this proposal first.” Many hands for dealing with it, only 3 for continuing the facilitation proposal.

OK. Nicole: “We’re going to table this facilitation proposal until after we finish this matter, & right now we’re going to discuss…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…if this individual should be prevented from going to housing. So anyone who wants to present that, now’s the time.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff (Housing) will bring the proposal. “Good evening. the first thing I’d like to say is, I don’t like to stand in front of this..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…group to talk about things of this nature, but we need to deal with real problems, as well as process problems.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff notes he’s too biased to give his own account of events, endorses Brooke’s account. “I’m concerned that we have an individual who…”

Cont’d: “…not just threatened violence, but has also attacked individuals. I know no other place to go but group consensus.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “We’re a mvmnt built for inclusion of all peoples, but I will stand here and tell you we’re not inclusive for all behaviors…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…and the behavior expressed by this individual is against our principles of solidarity, whether they’re against yr morals or not.”

Cont’d: “We don’t attack individuals physically. IMO, we should do it verbally.” [Or, in case of awful comedic timing, w/ tomatoes. -Ed.]

Jeff asks that “we ask this person to leave our movement and deny him resources he can control,” financial and physical. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “And that is my proposal.” Jason opens stack for clarifying questions. “We’ll give you 3 minutes to discuss CQs and concerns on this.”

Bringing it back! “If you can hear me, clap once.” Clap. “If you can hear me, clap twice.” Clap, clap. #nycsc #OWS

Jason: “I’m hearing a request for more time.” Asks spokes to raise their cards if they wnt more time. “OK, more time, then we’ll come back.”

OK, we’re back with a point of information. “Last #SC we went through process as a whole group, rather than spokes, and this…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…seems like a similar proposal that affects the whole community.” Last time it was abt dealing w/ issues at West Park Presbyterian.

Nicole: “This Spokes, like the GA, is a direct democracy. Just because every voice isn’t heard doesn’t mean every idea isn’t expressed.”

Cont’d: “I don’t think this would work better w/ individuals rather than Spokes. So as a facilitator I’d ask that we continue w/ process.”

Cont’d: “I don’t know what happened last time, but I’m asking we continue as Spokes tonight.” Someone notes that last time.. #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: ..the change was a personal decision by Sully acting as a facilitator [because issue affected folks who weren't spokes.] #nycsc #ows

First CQ, by TechOps. “For the record, we’re wondering what other sort of reason besides violence this should apply to.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “This will be an important precedent, so succinctness and comprehensiveness is going to be important.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “Physical violence is kind of vague, so I’d like it to be clear.” Jeff will respond. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “Violating the principles of solidarity — taking swings at someone, assaulting someone.” Someone asks, includes verbal abuse? #nycsc

Jeff’s A: “Yes, verbal abuse — well, threats of physical violence, like “I want to murder you.”" #nycsc #OWS

Nan and Trish are complaining out of process, echoing TechOps’s concerns. Jason asks that only Spokes speak. #nycsc #ows

Next, Minutes: “Our CQ is if we pass this, how will it be enforced? How will it be implemented?” #nycsc #OWS

Jeff: “The only way I can suggest is any space that we can close, we exclude from. In public spaces, I expect we’d deny him…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..participation. Don’t put him on stack. Deny him resources from accounting, SIS, etc. Perhaps even food.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “There are plenty of public spaces we cannot remove people from. But even inside park we could exclude them from areas.” #nycsc #ows

Minutes: “And from housing?” Jeff: “We can control those spaces, so we can exclude them.” #nycsc #ows

Kitchen is next. “Hi, I kind of have a couple of questions. One is related to enforcement, but more particular, how will Kitchen…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…be able to enforce not feeding ppl? Because none of us in Kitchen feel comfortable w/ that position of saying in a public…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…place, you can’t eat. So that will need to be answered if we’re asked to do that. And 2nd, why wasn’t it de-escalated properly?”

Cont’d: “I saw the whole event explode, & a person who stood up to de-escalate was doing what he thought was right in an ugly situation.”

Jeff’s A: “I understand denying ppl food is vry sensitive subject in general, not just for #OWS. I certainly hope he doesn’t starve.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “There are plenty of resources in the city for it, and if he comes to us we should direct him to them.” Notes that our money was…

Cont’d: …donated to a non-violent movement. “If he walks up and takes something, I’m not asking for anyone to physically..” #nycga #ows

Cont’d: “…stop him.” Jeff notes that, re: de-escalation, “we asked him to leave. He kept standing there, threatening people.” #nycsc #ows

Someone was threatened and tried to push him, and then the attacker assaulted him. Jeff notes that de-escalation is supposed… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: …to be present when Metrocard s are distributed. “This has happened before, b/c we’re in the uncomfortable situation of having the…”

Cont’d: “…Metrocards.” Picture the Homeless is next. “I’d like to make a proposal that this person be expelled, because violence…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…should never be tolerated in this forum. And if we are sleeping w/ persons who threaten violence, who knows what they…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…can do while we’re sleeping.” Jason thanks him, notes that “that is what the proposal is, and at this time, we’re hearing CQs.”

@justinstoned we tweet out of process remarks when relevant to the narrative of what transpires, as much as is possible & w/ discretion

Cont’d: “Next, we’ll hear concerns. I’m sure many have concerns w/ this proposal, but we also have questions about what this..” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…proposal means.” Safer Spaces steps up w/ their CQs. “First, we want to acknowledge that serious harm and physical violence..”

Cont’d: “…is a reason to stop the process. Our first ? would be, is yr proposal to eject this person w/o a road back, w/o a way…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…to address the harm and to be accountable for that process, and come back to the movement?” Might be a FA if not. #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “On our community agreement, on last pg, it says “those who have committed harm…” – you can read that, but might address it.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “Next, what are we doing to help the person who was threatened? If they no longer have a safe space to go, what will we do…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…about that?” And thirdly, “are you proposing this apply to all incident or just this one?” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “1st, the road back. I’ve supported that idea in previous proposals. We haven’t given thought to it in this proposal mostly..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “… and we don’t have an established process for a road back and I’m hesitant to form process in this proposal.” #nycs #ows

Jeff supports the idea but isn’t sure this is the time for it. “As far as person injured, I’m also concerned. A facilitator was assaulted..”

Cont’d: “…last week who has not returned to #SC. I don’t know that it’s connected, don’t know it isn’t. We don’t have bars…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…We cannot rehabilitate people. We’re trying to protect every individual in this community, and so…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…our absolutely primary impulse is to help individuals who have been attacked, and I hope they seek help in our mvmnt.” #nycsc #ows

Ravi notes that she did speak to “the facilitator who was attacked,” & “he’s not coming back. He’s considering leaving the movement.” #nycsc

Jason: “Thank you for that. I’d like to close stack…” CQer notes she had one more, about whether the proposal was to apply to all incidents.

Jeff: “I’ve had some experience w/ community agreements myself; I don’t think the question is whether it should pertain to all..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…physical violence.” He feels we should exclude all physical violence without exception. #nycsc #ows

Nan starts talking, people shush her. Jeff notes greater question has to do with the type of physical violence, as well as enforcement.

Jeff: “Right now, we have no process to determine in this group whether people’s behavior deserves exclusion.” Supports broader proposal…

Cont’d: …to cover that. “For the time being, we ask simply that physical violence be grounds for exclusion.” #nycsc #ows

Next: “I think our concerns have bn addressed, re: appeals process / a way back.” Nicole notes we’re on clarifying questions, not concerns.

OK, the last speaker says he does have a CQ, of sorts: “I guess there’s nothing commenting on verbal threats.” #nycsc #ows

Next CQ: People of Color Caucus (@drovarela): “Expelled from what?” A: “This organization.” CQ: “Why wasn’t he given the metro card…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…& also, if you’re pushing me, who’s violent? And also, how is this situation different from the rape situation when someone was..”

Cont’d: “…allowed to stay?” Jeff: “This individual was denied a metrocard because every working group has a limited allotment.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “We’ve done a breakdown of metrocards versus total number of groups we have. That group, we already let extra ppl in…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…b/c it’s a large group, the occupiers.” “We did not deny the individual a card; we gave him one last week, & we’d have..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…given him one this week, he just needed to find a different working group to get it through.” #nycsc #OWS

Cont’d: “It’s a great question about who initiated the violence,” points at larger questions: pushing, shoving? Threats of violence? #nycsc

Cont’d; “And your last question is of great importance. We’ve previously dealt w/ threats in park; we had an incident recently when…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…an individual who’d been in our sleeping space for 3 days, it was brought to our attn he was accused of heinous crimes…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…in the park, against other occupiers. We have no process of enforcement; no group consensus ever came through…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…the GA that any individuals had been excluded from the movement.” So housing, he says, met to decide whether they would… #nycsc

Cont’d: ..throw him out. They decided not to do so “in the middle of the night”, but to exclude him the next day. #nycsc #ows

CQ: “And you called the police tonite?” Jeff: “I called the police. And if there’s any question, I’m the one who signed out the resources..”

Cont’d: “..and the card was taken from me. 4 ppl were assaulted. I called the police.” #nycsc #ows

OK, next: Vision & Goals’ CQ: “I need clarity, the good neighbor policy, is that just for liberty square, or applies to all spaces?” #nycsc

Cont’d: “Because we had destruction of property as well as assault here; how does that affect proceedings going forward?” #nycsc #ows

Nicole notes that’s a ? for the group as to “how that translates.” Anybody want to answer? Someone will read the Good Neighbor Policy aloud.

Good neighbor policy that we passed at GA: http://t.co/d4AUARfR

Nan: “It’s only for the park.” Others: “That doesn’t make sense.” #nycsc

Nicole recaps for the group: “We asked if anyone could further explain the good neighbor policy through…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…how it applies to other things. If the POI could speak through their spoke…” They’re reading the Good Neighbor Policy. #nycsc #ows

When the reading gets to “limiting drumming to 2hrs a day,” we all have a big laugh! Oh, the good old days. That conflict seems so quaint.

We also laugh at last line abt port-a-potties. V&Goals says the opposite of, but means, “We should be good neighbors everywhere.” #scarcasm

Jeff: “The 1st pt in the text says #OWS has zero tolerance for drugs & alcohol in the park.” So, we tolerate drugs, alcohol outside of Park?

Jeff: “The second pt says “zero tolerance for abuse,” and doesn’t specify location. So, applies everywhere. #nycsc #ows

Next, Strong Women Rules (Nan): “I’ve got a few questions for you, Jeff. My 1st question for you is this: you allowed a gentleman…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..who’s a raper — a rapist, thank you — ” People question her spokehood, she says she didn’t speak last time. Ooook. #nycsc

Nan: “You allowed someone who raped a woman in the park in the church, and now you provoked someone you know has a mental problem…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..and you called the police without consulting #OWS.” Sumumba: “You called the police to get back into a Spokes!” #nycsc

Room loses focus after that. A lot of people don’t want her to be able to speak [because she's such an anti-contributor -Ed.] #nycsc #ows

Jason: “i want to say something abt disruptive behavior, as a facilitator. It can be a problem, but what’s worse is when ppl react.” #nycsc

Cont’d: Notes the whole room reacted. “I understand many of you may have problems with this person, and may be waiting for proposal…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…at end abt Nan. But right now, you’re disrupting more than this person is. I want to point that out to all of you…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…so you can be aware of your own behavior. As a facilitator, I’m trying to hold this room together.” #nycsc #ows

PoI, Minutes (@CarrieM213): “This is to help you guys, OK? I’m the person for minutes who keeps track of who Spokes…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…and Nan can be a Spoke tonight, OK?” Notes she Spoke Friday out of process, but it didn’t make her a spoke necessarily. #nycsc

Jason: “Thank you so much for that.” 2 more CQs on stack, then Concerns. “What I’d like, Nan, for you to do, is to speak & continue…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…your points uninterrupted by the room and try to do it in less than 2 minutes. I’ll cut you off after 2 minutes.” #nycsc #ows

Nan: “Like I was saying, Jeff, you’ve done several wrong things in this movement. You knew about the Metrocards; you knew…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…that this guy had mental problems, and you knew the Metrocards belonged to the GA, to the ppl, and took it upon yourself…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…to call the police. I called the police because I was pushed by Jason to clear the room. So, how on earth are you going to have…”

Cont’d: “…the Pastor of that church enforce your rules or demands?” Nicole: “Great; thank you for that question.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff notes he’s happy to have the oppty to address this. “You mentioned I knew an individual who was accused — I didn’t. I’d never seen..”

Cont’d: “…him before he was brought to me at SPSA that evening. And the second thing, which was very subtle, was that I allowed someone…”

Cont’d:”…to do something. I don’t have the authority to allow someone to do something, I just have to respect group consensus.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “I expect to take this decision to the Pastor of the church where Will is sleeping, and I expect that pastor and the Park Slope…”

Cont’d: “…community to enforce the will of this group, not just Jeff’s feelings.” Says he called NYPD b/c he’s responsible for #OWS… #nycsc

Cont’d: …property, and felt responsible to do so since he can’t enforce the law himself. #nycsc #ows

Next, Picture the Homeless. “This is a CQ about Minutes’ POI. So, if we’re doing spokes, and I want to break process, can I just talk..”

Cont’d: “…in Spokes whenever w/o breaking process?” Nicole: “Facilitation is up here, and it’s our job to maintain process. Sometimes ppl…”

Cont’d: “…break process, & we don’t have a uniform way to deal w/ that. We encourage you to not break process. Our job is to open…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…up a conversation.” Nicole also notes that non-verbal dismissals don’t “help us hold [a safe space for a conversation].” #nycsc

Next, PtH’s CQ: “My clarifying question is that I keep hearing about a rapist. I want to know, was this person tried and convicted?” #nycsc

Cont’d: “This is America, whereby we say everyone is innocent until proven guilty. So I want to know if the person was tried…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…and convicted, or was it alleged?” Jeff: “It’s a very serious accusation.” Nan and Trish start yelling protests. #nycsc #ows

Jason: “We don’t want to start shouting out answers.” Nicole: “This is why we have non-verbal communication.” #nycsc #ows

Safer Spaces responds. “This person hs charges of sexual assault against him, multiple, w/ multiple ppl. Criminal case pending.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “He hasn’t been at this point convicted, but he has multiple charges of sexual assault. SS has been in contact w/ at least..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…one survivor & has done a significant amnt of support work for” them. Notes there’s an order of protection (restraining order).

Nan interjects an unrecognized PoI: “Strong Women working group has been dealing with the rapers.” Stairs asks her to hold off. #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “We’re talking right now about what might become our generalized way of dealing w/ violent behavior. OK? So a question abt…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…other violent behavior — b/c yes, rape is violent behavior — might be pertinent to this conversation.” #nycsc #ows

Nan’s POI is that this guy raped 5 people. “There’s a court date in Feb, and I’m one of the witnesses, I walked in and saw it.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d :”The reason that this guy went out on bail is that he had a family member who works for the court system.” $50k bail. #nycsc

Nan is confident he’ll be convicted “of all 5 rapes.” Housing’s PoI: “We don’t have the authority to throw anyone out of the space. If ppl..

Cont’d: “…in the community have an issue with someone being in that space, it’s up to the community to decide what to do about that.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “We don’t have the authority to kick ppl out of the space; that’s why we’re coming to Spokescouncil to bring this up.” #nycsc #ows

Shawn: “I’ve been raising this PoP for about 3 minutes now; I really have to say this. We are off-process right now for several reasons.”

Cont’d: “PoI are only factual & relevant to the proposal and to everyone in the room. When they spontaneously arise 1 after another…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…they are very clearly not relevant to the proposal we’re talking about.” Factual isn’t the only criteria for PoI. #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “I know one reason we’re off process is that stack wasn’t closed at the right time, because one group that was on stack got…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…on stack again. Not closed, so that’s one reason. And we’re not using a stack greeter to take PoIs, which we’ve done for awhile.”

Nicole notes that it’s because there were only 2 of them on the team when they walked in. Also, “as a good friend of mine says, sometimes…”

Cont’d:”…if you can’t see how a PoI is related, sometimes it doesn’t mean it’s not related- just that you can’t see how it is.” #nycsc #ows

Next CQ: “Back to original proposal, it was a 2-for, right? We’re unclear, there’s been discussion, but whether it included verbal..”#nycsc

Cont’d: “..violence, & if it does, what’s the exact def. of that?” Jeff: “I think it should, but the group has to decide what’s too far.”

Cont’d: “Are damaging rumors, slander, behind a person’s back? Threats to a person’s face, “I’ll murder you?” Thinks we should deal… #nycsc

Cont’d: …with it case-by-case, “but it is something we should remove a person for.” Threats, he thinks, should count. #nycsc #OWS

Jeff: “We’re #OWS. We’re not violent.” Nicole notes that’s the end of CQs; now for concerns. #nycsc #OWS

Jason asks for our patience, noting that we probably won’t get to much else on the agenda, reminds us to keep side convos to nil. #nycsc

Jason: “We’re taking stack on concerns, and there will be a lot of them.” Someone notes that new info may need discussion. #nycsc #ows

Jason: “Great point- I’m going to take these side conversations as a sign that you need to check in 1 more time.” More time w/ Spokes now.

OK, we’re back. Jason: “What we’re going to do now is have our stacktaker take stack on concerns.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “I just want to remind everyone, we’ve been talking about this topic for an hour & 15 minutes. It’s 9:43pm right now.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “I want to try to get out of this space by 10:30, and I know we can come to a consensus decision on this topic…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “..and bring it back to the tabled Facilitation proposal.” Proposal is being restated one more time… #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “Just for clarity, I think a number of ppl asked questions about inclusion/exclusion of verbal violence, so on.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “Just for the sake of brevity, this is dealing w/ [this attack],” affecting this space and the church in Park Slope, Brooklyn. #nycsc

Jeff: “I am a big believer in community agreements. I think we need effective, practical, functional CAs; I’m not trying to write those…”

Cont’d: “…in this time period. It should be a top priority, bt tonight I’m asking for action against a single individual, Will, who…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…acted violently in this space, against occupiers, for physical items.” Wants to stick to this issue for this proposal. #nycsc #ows

Jason announces that he’s now going to close stack. “We have 15 ppl on stack right now, which will take about 30 minutes.” #nycsc #ows

Timekeeper notes he’ll “time you; when the time goes off, I’ll give you a warning about 30 seconds. When you’re done, you’re done.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…because we have to get out of here. Is this OK?” Yeah. Anti-Racism Allies’ cncrn. “So, the first concern we had actually..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…has to do with the racial & class dimensions that pertain to this tonight. We don’t believe that this person who is threatening…”

Cont’d: “…and has used violence should be in a space that should be safe, & it’s up to that community, & we think they should be excluded.”

Cont’d: “But this relates to issues racial justice forum a few weeks ago brings up; when a white man is handing out metrocards…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…and a homeless person of color is receiving them, we do need to look at that dynamic and unpack it.” #nycsc #ows

ARA also notes that Safer Spaces also has a proposal pertaining to agreements and they feel a lot more comfortable w/ that one. #nycsc #ows

ARA are also uncomfortable with how ppl were throwing the word rape around earlier. “We understand there was a proposal to exclude…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…someone who had done that was excluded by Spokescouncil previously.” They want to note that. #nycsc #OWS

Next, Think Tank: “We just want to make sure that in this case Mediation is part of process. And we do think [the attacker]…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…shouldn’t be allowed back into the space tonight if ppl feel unsafe. But he and the other person should be involved in mediation.”

Next, Direct Action. “We’d like to call for a breakout group to talk about the process back for anyone accused of said violence.” #nycsc

Next: Strong Women Rules working group, Nan: “Can you come back to me, because I’m smelling a fart right now.” #Jokes! [Sheesh. -Ed.] #nycsc

Next CQ: “What are the greater implications of not making a decision tonight?” Jeff: “I think absolutely a decision should be made…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…that’s why this is an emergency proposal.” Violence has occurred, and they’re uncomfortable with him in Housing. #nycsc

Jeff: “We’d like a decision on this this evening to effect policies to prevent further damage to this community.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “We’re not trying to punish people; this isn’t a punitive action. We’re simply trying to protect this community.” #nycsc #ows

Next, Kitchen. “The concern is, again, whatever we end up deciding, if we’re asked to not serve food to this individual, there are…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…other people who might not observe tht.” Also don’t feel comfortable asking volunteers not to serve food in a public space. #nycsc

Cont’d: “If we’re going to be asked to do that, then we’re going to need some sort of…” (It sounds lk they wnt de-escalation’s help?) #nycsc

Jeff answers. “I think you’re talking about a larger issue for the community to decide, whether we’re performing social services or not.”

Cont’d: “I think that’s a discussion that can happen- not tonight; it’s a serious discussion tht needs to happen. We’re asking…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…that this person not get #OWS resources, which may include food.” Trish, Nan, and at least one other vocalize “No.” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “Kitchen seems to have a concern w/ excluding this person from food. Is that part of the proposal?” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “We mean resources, unless you strongly feel we shld serve food to ppl who committed violence against #OWS occupiers.” #ohsnap #nycsc

Kitchen: “My concern is if we’re going to be asked to do tht, we’re put in a very uncomfortable position of denying someone a basic…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…right, and asking ppl who volunteer to serve food, that they can’t serve this person in front of other people who can get food.”

Kitchen: “I think if they’re being denied food, there are some ppl who won’t understand the situation of why, if we’re asked to do that.”

Kitchen continues with their second concern, “about the person who was in a scuffle with [the attacker].” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “Why isn’t there something else being done about him, because he helped escalate it?” #nycsc #ows

Jeff feels the person who scuffled didn’t “assault Will, he was assaulted by Will, and Will then assaulted several others.” #nycsc #ows

They say a witness said they pushed Will first, others contradict. Strong Women Rules is next; Nan’s handed off the spoke role. #nycsc #ows

SWR: “Some bullet points: we’ve had no finding of fact; just a dispute here about who pushed who first- that’s critically important.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “Also, we don’t know what his side is; he has no right to face his accuser, we have no solid standard for verbal violence…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…we have no understanding of history between these people. 99% of time is talking about rules, and not facts of who…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…pushed who first, and the person telling us what the rules are, I don’t know if he saw anything – we don’t know what happened.”

Nan jumps back in after giving up spoke role. “#SC is #SC; the ppl, the GA need to make that decision about if we feed people.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “And I think the community at that church needs to decide whether to remove people, not us.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “First, they’ll have a hard time doing that because it didn’t occur here. They’re not empowered to make decisions about #OWS policy..”

Cont’d: “…outside of their community space. #OWS is empowered to make this decision.” RE: GA and Spokes, notes Spokes has power… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: …to make decision about operations, which he feels this applies to because Housing is an operational effort. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “Who pushed who would be interesting if we were only talking about initial contact; but Will assaulted several others after.” #nycsc

Jeff again cites Brooke’s earlier recounting, notes his recounting would be far less neutral. #nycsc #OWS

Jeff: “This went beyond initial conflict and included several other ppl, including those threatened.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “This person isn’t here b/c he was asked to leave, but has ppl to speak on his behalf. This isn’t a trial…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…and it’s not to make judgements…we’re simply asking for protection of this #OWS community.” #nycsc #OWS

Next, Media. “We are also concerned with the lack of due process and the fact that there may or may not be another person who…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…also escalated.” But they’re mainly concerned that also there was physical aggression against a female also involved. #nycsc

Jeff: “I personally would not mention that, because I don’t see gender in any case — I think violence against a human being…” #nycsc #ows

Folks react sharply to that last remark. [Wow, 'gender blindness.' That's a new one. -Ed.] Jason notes Jeff needn’t respond to every C.

Jason to Jeff: “Some of these may not be pertinent to whether your proposal will be changed. For time, pls [don't comment on all of them].”

Next, DAP. “My group has a positive concern for this proposal. To briefly borrow the words of MLK, this movement is seeking…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…a revolution of values – a world that has no violence in it of any kind, be it verbal, physical, racial, sexual, any type.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “We create an example by growing a community into a movement and then spreading worldwide!” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “We need to set an example that everyone be completely nonviolent, & it may be difficult at first, but that’s the community…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…my group feels we must create, and if you’re not completely non-violent you’re not a part of this movement.” #nycsc #ows

PoCC, @drovarela: “We feel like violence is unacceptable; safety for all is paramount. On same page, echo strongly” Safer Spaces and ARA.

Cont’d: “But this is an emergency proposal to deal with an immediate need; the long-term effects should be dealt effectively…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “.. at another time, & not with this shock doctrine approach.” Started as immediate concern, “but now we’re broadening.” #nycsc #ows

PoCC Cont’d: we feel we need to be constructive and make solutions palatable for community and for wider society. #nycsc #ows

PoCC: “Sometimes outrage is a rational feeling, so we want to echo that, and recognize the very monster we’re here to battle…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…capitalism, greed, are responsible for many of these personal behaviors.” Ask that group recognizes that violence… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: …has many flavors.” Want to really talk about building breakout group right now to start working on “the road back.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “Also, distribution of housing & metrocards is creating a power struggle that’s exacerbating the situation. Withholding resources..”

Cont’d: “…like housing or food is violence.” “We respect all of the effort that you’re giving, but it doesn’t change that broader picture.”

Cont’d: “We’d ask that the working group [requirement for getting metrocards] just be removed. Because we see reaction to that every day.”

Cont’d: “We’re putting Jeff, and everyone else, in an unsafe situation. We need to remove that clause, & thanks for indulging me…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “Jeff, we ask you respectfully to consider the things that happened w/ housing, the sexual assault, that you reconsider yr..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…role in housing, & the power that, without you wanting it, seems to reside in your hands.” Offers to help redistribute it.. #nycsc

Cont’d: ..and notes that he is becoming a lightning rod. Applause follows for @drovarela’s statement. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “First, we gave out metrocards last night; I wasn’t involved. Only happened this eve because” he was waiting for a volunteer. #nycsc

Cont’d: “As far as the fact that resources, and their existence, causes a disturbance inside of this movement… I want to remind the group…”

Cont’d: “…that the basic struggle of humanity has been a struggle for resources.” Land, finances, everything, he says. #nycsc #OWS

Cont’d: “This movement you’re in is not new, whether it started in Biblical times or further.” Groans. “This is an age-old struggle…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…if you don’t understand the very basis of why we’re here is to talk about resources; to ask that there’s no differentiation…”

Cont’d: “…between resource allocation, is to be blind to, that’s why we’re protesting. Resources aren’t infinite…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…this is abt a fair process for obtaining resources.” [Lots of folks right now beg to differ, things are a little rambunctious.]

Nicole: “We are going to keep all of this to answering concerns… we’re not taking this moment to define what the movement is.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “This is about the urgent matter of housing tonight, for this individual.” Asks we remember the topic and stick to it. #nycsc #ows

Women Occupying Wall St.: “We have a concern & an amendment: there’s no clear way of enforcement, & there’s no way of excluding someone..”

Cont’d: “…from someplace like, say 60 Wall. And we want this to apply to all future situations, and spread community-wide…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…why this person was excluded, and if they try to return, we want someone like de-escalation and witnesses…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…at the door to let them know explicitly why they’ve been excluded.” #nycsc #ows

Kitchen want to make a friendly amendment. “Building off of what Alejandro said, let’s split into Housing and then other issues..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…separately.” A: “I’m going to decline the amendment to split this up; isn’t abt Housing, it’s abt #OWS as an organization.” #nycsc

Next, OWS Works, Ravi. “The concern I want to bring is actually the concern of the man who was threatened. He needed to leave…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…to make sure that Park Slope is safe. His concern is he was threatened — he was told by the individual that he would murder him.”

Cont’d: “People’s stuff is there [at Park Slope]; they’re very worried. Alec wanted everyone to know how urgent the situation is.” #nycsc

Next Concern: Vision and Goals, Sumumba. “As a witness, and a person of color, I want to say that… I have a concern, a safety..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…concern, and a friendly amendment. I’ve witnessed violence at the last 2 spokescouncils; I’ve witnessed where someone…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…was swung upon. This was from a person of color to another, & my concern is we’ll allow this and it will lead to someone…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…getting seriously hurt. You can twinkle down, but I’m a person of color, & I am homeless.” Nan is reacting negatively. #nycsc #ows

Sumumba continues. “I’m a PoC, so I’m vry sensitive to that. Bt this individual took a metrocard, I know you can go to a shelter to…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…get a free meal and a cot. To say this person has nowhere to sleep at night is fallacious. I’m sleeping on someone’s cot.” #nycsc

Sumumba notes he is concerned not just with this individual but anyone caught on record behaving violently. #nycsc #ows

Sumumba: “We don’t have a safe space right now, and if we don’t resolve this, we won’t have housing or Spokes anymore.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “Before we go on with stack.. and I really hate to do this, but this is where we’re at and I want your input… since this wasn’t..”

Cont’d: “..brought by a working group, & deals with an incident, this proposal belongs to all of us. And the urgency has to do with…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…tonight. The Housing tonight. RE: Kitchen, it doesn’t seem to be as urgent, so maybe it can go to GA tomorrow…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “..but the urgency seems to be w/ housing tonight.” So, Nicole PoPs “this entire process”, hopes the proposal is just about tonight.

Nicole asks that we check in within WGs on “moving forward with that.” [So, essentially, she wants us to restrict proposal to housing. -Ed.]

Spokes are now conferring with their working groups about this potential change to the proposal. It’s 10:20pm, & time is short. #nycsc #ows

After a short convo, Nicole claps us back into session. “Clap four times if you can hear me!” All back together now! #nycsc #ows

Nicole switches: “The proposal was to take the urgent aspect of this, the housing tonight, and to make that what we’re voting on.” #nycsc

PoP: “Isn’t the proposer the person who can change the proposal?” Jeff, miffed: “Did Facilitation just change the proposal?” #nycsc #ows

Jason: “The reason my co-facilitator is saying this is that this is an emergency about tonight, and we’re making some big decisions…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…about this emergency proposal, which delayed our agenda, which had a proposal on it that should have dealt with this.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “So, as a facilitation team, rather than have this emergency proposal be some broad thing,” let’s restrict it to emergency. #nycsc

Cont’d: “We feel as facilitators this proposal is out of process, & needs to deal with the emergency issue of this individual.” #nycsc #OWS

Cont’d: “Facilitators are not supposed to have opinions, but we feel this is a process situation we’re dealing with.” #nycsc #OWS

Cont’d: “Especially in light of Safer Spaces’ proposal having been tabled to deal with this.” #nycsc #OWS

Someone: “Violence is out of process.” Stairs: “So that’s why we want it to deal with this situation in particular,” not a blanket stment…

Ravi: “Is there a situation wherein violence would be accessible?” Stairs direct folks back to the temp check on the change. #nycsc #ows

Very few spoke signs went up, but not clear all participated. People seem to be frustrated Facilitators ‘broke the 4th wall’, as it were.

PoCC stepping in. “This is an emergency proposal; there’s no need to accept violence, so we need to focus on what happened today..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…and what happens in the housing in park slope. Yes or no? That’s the emergency. You have an issue where some ppl got threatened..”

Cont’d: “…and they’re going to share space in Park Slope. And everyone there has a responsibility to look out for everybody, and if…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..this person threatened, you may need to let the church know.” Jeff: “Also [that].” PoCC (@blogdiva): “Yes or no?” #nycsc #OWS

Jeff pushes back: “I’m also concerned about housing for tomorrow night, and meetings tomorrow before we address this issue.” #nycsc #OWS

.@blogdiva: “Don’t you have to tell them tonight? Yes or no?” Jeff: “Also [that].” But @blogdiva presses him on whether he needs… #nycsc

Cont’d: …to tell the church & whether that would prevent danger frm entering anyway. Jeff: “Also.” Restates concern for other spaces. #nycsc

.@blogdiva: “The issue is that you have a safety issue at the church. We have a Safer Spaces proposal that’s huge and covers a wide…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…issue of violence and safety. So are we going to deal with the issue of violence at the church?” Jeff: “I hope so.” #nycsc #OWS

.@blogdiva insists we then must focus on this emergency. Some murmur in crowd that Alec needs to feel safe in all #OWS spaces. #nycsc

Jeff: “He needs to be excluded frm #OWS activities, which includes the church.” Again says we should address broader questions later… #nycsc

…yet continues: “…but we need to deal with other spaces. Like GA tomorrow. Will someone put him on stack?” #nycsc #ows

Jeff’s “not here to judge or punish this individual; we just want to protect ppl in #OWS who’ve bn assaulted for following process.” #nycsc

Jeff says he hopes SS gets its proposal through, “I know they brought it last week, but we needed it months ago.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “We’re concerned that — and I hate to even use the words — some of those threats may be followed through on.” #nycsc #ows

.@shawncarrie for @DAP notes tht PoCC’s statement awhile ago was out of process, derailed it, and he wants to return to process. #nycsc #ows

Jason notes we can continue til abt 11. It’s 10:30. “We’re responsible for facilitating a democratic process; this is not in any rulebook..”

Cont’d: “..and we’re doing the best we can.” Back to stack: PR, @Dwayne_wins. “My concern w/ this proposal is the language of removing…”

Cont’d: “..someone from #OWS, b/c it’s supposed to be all-inclusive, and people have done worse things. I understand what…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…he did was wrong, and not allowing him to stay at the church for safety reasons, but saying ‘remove him from…’” #nycsc

Cont’d: “‘…the movement’ is opening up a huge can of worms that threatens many individuals who are supposed to be part of the 99%.” #nycsc

Dwayne also feels “removing food from someone is inhumane. If the US gov’t stopped feeding prisoners, we’d be outraged, & we should…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…treat ppl in our movement the same way.” Next, Safer Spaces. “Referring to our original concern, I want to address that…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…it’s come up that [our proposal] is a way to deal w/ all of this – that’s not true, puts a lot of weight on smthing that…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…is supposed to be the start of a process.” Notes tht it’s not their proposal, it’s everyone’s, b/c of inclusive process. #nycsc

Cont’d: “It doesn’t yet specify a process of accountability or anything like that, & I feel like that’s been implied; want to clarify that.”

Cont’d: “My next cncrn is that ppl threatened haven’t been asked what they need — I guess they have a bit, but want to add FA that…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…safer spaces is empowered to reach out to those people to ask what they think the process of returning to mvmnt should be.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “We want a clear road back, & Safer Spaces wants to take responsibility for reaching out to those harmed to determine that.” #nycsc

DA: “Our amendment was to make a breakout group to create an appeals process for returning. So before SS offers their services..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…there are two opportunities for helping people create a way back in.” Safer Spaces clarifies: just want to check in w/… #nycsc

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Cont’d: …ppl who were harmed to see what they think. “I don’t think we can determine that w/o talking to them.” #nycsc #ows

Next, Anti Political Repression. “This has been really confusing. Whether or not this is a long-term thing we’re trying to…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…pass tonight, or just for tonight, this FA is still relevant. I want to amend that we very precisely define verbal…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “..violence in this circumstance, and use it as precedent later on, as interpersonal credible threats of violence.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “I think we need to be very specific, and very precise.” Jeff pauses, then accepts the language as an amendment. #nycsc #ows

Last on stack for Concerns/FAs: Facilitation. “Let’s see… there’s this kind of weirdo dynamic that we talked about as a concern…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…that none of us — well, most of us don’t live at Park Slope; weird that we’re making a decision for folks from community many…”

Cont’d: “…of us aren’t a part of. So a concern we have – beyond that – is if any decisions are made here, especially re: mediation…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…and the road back, we’re concerned it’s not the Park Slope community doing that, but rather other folks…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…trying to do that for them, so we want to make sure that doesn’t happen. We also have a…” Michael interrupts. #nycsc #ows

Michael: “She’s saying that no one knows anything about the ppl in Park Slope. Why is that? It’s because no one has listened.” #nycsc #ows

Michael gets pushy with Jason, who tried to point-of-process him, and then storms out. Jason clarifies that it started because… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: …he asked Michael to move because he was blocking peoples’ view of the speaker. Moving on… #nycsc #ows

Facilitation resumes speaking. “We also had a concern about just limiting it tonight — like, let’s make this space feel safe…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…and like Safer Spaces was saying,” we really need to ask the affected what they need. She’s opposed to making this… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: …a one-day fix, should be done right. Jeff notes that Park Slope can’t make a decision about events that happen elsewhere. #nycsc

Jeff: “We can’t decide based on a criminal record, but we can make judgment about what happens here in this community.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “In fact, I’m not talking about the Park Slope community, I’m talking about these folks [us]” who fund that space. #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “We don’t have to support someone who is committing physical acts.” If they had no other recourse in town, it’d be different. #nycsc

Cont’d: “The truth is, there’s other shelters, other opportunities to eat, other resources in this city. So no, I don’t feel we’re…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…committing “violence” by excluding people.” Just keeping community safe. “We’re simply saying: in #OWS, violence is not ok.”#nycsc

Cont’d: “I still think Will will find a home somewhere in this city. But not with a movement of people who’re non-violent.” #nycsc #ows

Stairs asks Jeff to now restate the proposal, with the accepted friendly amendments. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “So far, the only friendly amendment I’ve accepted has had to do with the definition of verbal violence.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “Otherwise, we just ask that #OWS stops supporting this individual who committed & threatened physical violence against ppl.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “We’re asking to cut housing, food, participation in GA, & any events, until there’s a road back via mediation for them to return.”

Cont’d: “In the meantime, I think we need to separate this person from #OWS, period.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “What I hear is that the Think Tank FA has been accepted…” Jeff won’t accept the mediation aspect, tho; too specific. #nycsc #OWS

Jeff: “I’m willing to accept that there may be a road back in the future; I just don’t know what it is.” #nycsc #ows

Others will restate FAs Jeff missed. DA’s as “to establish a breakout group for Friday to build a ‘road back’ or appeals process…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…for any person who’s kicked out.” Jeff: “OK, so we establish a time for the discussion, but not what the result is, right now.”

DA: “The amendment is that a subgroup be established on Friday to find a road back, and if it doesn’t happen Friday, this proposal expires.”

Ravi shouts: “So, what, he’s allowed back?” Jason: “This is a space where people can express their opinion without being…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…shut down or, out of process, stomped on.” Jeff seems to accept the DA amendment as just restated. #nycsc #ows

Media has a PoI (@TesselizaTC): “As someone physically struck by this individual this evening, I would block any proposal from tonight…”

Cont’d: “…that indefinitely bans this person from our mvment. I’d block tht. I think immediate safety is a serious concern; I think there…”

Cont’d: “…needs to be something established until Wednesday, when we deal, first and foremost, with the Safer Spaces proposal..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “..that was meant to be on the agenda tonight. This is a specific incident and we can’t be making any permanent or long-term…”

Cont’d: “…decisions based on this. And I’m speaking as someone who is really freaked out right now from being hit.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole restates: the FA is to make whatever happens today go on only until next SC, on Wednesday, when Safer Spaces’ proposal is up. #nycsc

Jeff: “Again, I’m not opposed to having Safer Spaces set policy on CA. I’m opposed to having timelines and deadlines…” #nycsc #ows

Jeff notes that Safer Spaces’ proposal has been tabled by time limits repeatedly, as if to suggest we can’t rely on that fix. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “I’d be willing to accept the friendly amendment that we put this in place until SS is passed and we have some community agreements.”

Cont’d: “It might be Weds, Fri, whenever that goes through.” @TesselizaTC: “As long as SS is first on the agenda Wednesday.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “So, this exclusion becomes effective until we consense on a safer spaces agreement. I’ll accept that.” #nycsc #ows

WoW’s FA from earlier was that the entire community be made aware and and that de-escalation and witnesses stand at entrances… #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…and inform the individual specifically why they’re banned.” #nycsc #ows

They also ask that “this applies to all future situations,” and Jeff notes that he accepts that as limited by Tess’ proposal. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “And absolutely, we should tell them why we’ve done this,” and whole community. Notes in past this hasn’t always happened. #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “OK, so we’re going to move to consensus process. Let’s check in and decide if we’re ready to do that…” First, Jeff restates. #nycsc

Jeff restates the proposal. “We’re going to ask that this individual who verbally and physically assaulted this community…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…be excluded from #OWS resources and activities until Safer Spaces’ community agreements are consensed upon.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “In the meantime, we’ll have a breakout grp to discuss the road back; Weds we’ll discuss broader community agreements.” #nycsc #ows

SS: “I just heard persons and people, and I just want to clarify–” Jeff: “Person.” OK. So this excludes just this person, Will. #nycsc #ows

Media notes that they’d block it as it stands right now “basically because of the exclusion from– I agree with exclusion from #SC…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…and church, but the other exclusions, like food, we’d block based on.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole notes that if we move forward, as the facilitators would like to do, Media can block & make that a friendly amendment to resolve it.

.@shawncarrie asks if we’ll help him find other resources. Jeff: “Absolutely. That’s fine. We just wnt to protect ppl in #OWS frm violence.”

Nicole reviews how we got here. “We went through CQs; that took quite some time. Then we went through Concerns at some length.” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “Then FAs were in there, and we extracted them and talked about more. Now we’ve reviewed, and it’s time to move on to consensus.”

Cont’d: “So, the next question I’ll ask is if there are any standasides on this matter.” Folks want time to confer; Stairs gives it. #nycsc

Suggested length for this consultation period w/in wrkng grps is 3 minutes. It’s been like 5 already. Ha. It’s 11:01, so we’re in OT. #nycsc

Tony from BAI, sitting next to me, observes: Jeff seems to have made a decision on his own to restrict access to community resources. #nycsc

Jason notes we’re staying beyond time we’re asked to leave, but we apparently have some dispensation. Need to bring it home tho. #nycsc #ows

Stairs use the new “fist in air” signal for solidarity, until everyone is quiet. Nicole: “Good job, everyone. We did it.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole asks for standasides to register their vote. Facilitation: “We just don’t have a full consensus.” 1 stand aside. #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “Any blocks on this?” Five. Kitchen will speak to theirs first: “We don’t have a problem w/ removing disruptive people…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…from access to our resources, but the request on Kitchen to not serve certain ppl in public spaces puts us in the position…”

Cont’d: “..where we either don’t enforce this — and thus would like FA that we don’t have to — or we’d have to stop serving in public.”

Cont’d: “B/c it’s just not OK to ask a volunteer to create a situation w/ a dangerous person where there might be a violent confrontation.”

Cont’d: “So we either serve everyone, or we stop serving in public places.” So the FA to resolve block is to exempt Food. #nycsc #ows

Jeff accepts that friendly amendment, removing Kitchen’s block. PoCC has a block: “We feel this is one of those omni bills through…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…Congress where we have to support a war to support AIDS funding, and we don’t want that. We don’t want…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…all these services to be denied, and we don’t want to be addressing big issues without addressing causes.” #nycsc #OWS

Cont’d: “The resource issues are contributing, outside resources – we think we’ve reached limit of what we can do. & the metrocard policy.”

Nicole asks Alejandro if PoCC has friendly amndmnts. “We stated them before; he rejected all of them.” Nicole invites him to restate. #nycsc

Alejandro: “I feel like very few ppl are handling a lot of responsibilities and facing burnout w/ Metrocard and other responsibilities.”

Cont’d: “I offered to help redistributing that so it’s not just on Jeff. And I think it just being on Jeff is contributing to the problem.”

Cont’d: “And #2, those outside resources; I think the task force DA suggested should include outside voices” who may have solutions. #nycsc

Cont’d: “And finally, I think we need to remove that clause [requiring Working Group approval] in the Metrocard policy.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff accepts the DA thing; but “This isn’t about me.” “The person who started Metrocards was Lauren, and she had to step away because…”

Cont’d: “…she was experiencing so many threats of violence, that she had to step back and had an emotional…” #nycsc #ows

People are mad that Jeff just talked about Lauren’s health situation. [He said more that I excised.] Jason brings us back to focus. #nycsc

Jeff: “Let me apologize. But I do think it’s important to say that ppl who had given out Metrocards had received threats personally.” #nycsc

Jeff: Also, RE: “the clause inside Metrocard proposal that requires WGs to sign [people off to get them]…” #nycsc #ows

Jeff cont’d: “That came from Strong Women Rules, not housing, and I myself do not feel empowered to remove that from the statement…”#nycsc

Cont’d: “…nor do I personally think we should break down process to accept ppl who don’t like process or use violence b/c of it.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “Sorry. I decline that friendly amendment.” #nycsc #ows

The Occupiers have a POI: “A lot of things brought up tonight have to do with whether an individual has a place to stay. I’m one…” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…of the major metrocard givers; quickly becoming known for that. I’ll be going to Park Slope tonight.” #nycsc #ows

Huh – someone called the Police, and they’re here, and we don’t know who it was. Hmm. We’re continuing while others deal with it. #nycsc

Occupier continues: “I’m going to Park Slope tonight, and a lot of ppl have been worried about where the individual is going – what about..”

(The delayed airing of #NYCSC is wrapping back around onto @LibertySqGA now, having rounded the bases, or something). #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…ppl like me? Where am I going? We need to make sure this passes, at least for tonight, because I’m concerned for my safety.”

Nicole returns to the process: “Does that answer your block, PoCC?” She’s referring to Jeff’s response. No, they say, it holds. #nycsc #ows

PR blocks “because we don’t like the idea of this applying to future cases. That’s my FA. And also, re: kitchen’s issue, we shouldn’t..”

Cont’d: “…reject food for anyone in any way.” Jeff notes it’s just for this individual; “we’re not trying to apply this beyond” that. #nycsc

Jeff also notes he accepted Kitchen’s amendment to be exempted from denying him food in public spaces. #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “If we’re inside of Spokes, he won’t be allowed in to get food. But in public…” OK, Press withdraws block. #nycsc #ows

Media: “We’re reluctantly blocking, b/c we feel like this is an emergency proposal, but nt yielding emergency solution. It’s a…” #nycsc #ows

Cont’d: “…permanent ban until Safer Spaces is passed; ideally, it’ll be soon, but we don’t know when it will be.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff: “It’s not a permanent ban; it’s until Safer Spaces’ proposal is approved,” and notes that we agreed to make effort to put it 1st Weds.

Blocker from Media continues, notes “we also are concerned he’s not here to defend himself.” “We want this to have more forethought…”

Cont’d: “…with giving him an opportunity to speak for himself, at GA tomorrow night or Spokes in 2 nights.” #nycsc #ows

Jeff doesn’t accept the friendly amendment. “I’m not against Will having a voice, but I’d like to wait for a well-thought-out..” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…proposal” to establish a process. “If we do it at GA tomorrow night, still no process. Same emergency.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “Because this is about Safer Spaces, I’m going to take this PoI from Safer Spaces.” Safer Spaces’ spoke steps up. #nycsc #ows

Safer Spaces restates that “the community agreement does not address what this process should be, just that there should be one.”

Cont’d: “…and our friendly amendment to the proposal was that we’d volunteer to reach out to those harmed to determine acctability process.”

Cont’d: “It’s not part of the community agreement; it’s not something we’ll develop on our own or in a week.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole asks Media: “Does that info, in any way, have you thinking differently about the block or are you holding it?” Media holds. #nycsc

Nan wanted to block, but she’s not here. Trish notes she went to the hospital? [Huh? -Ed.] She gave someone her spoke sign tho.. #nycsc #ows

SWRWG: “This individual, tho Nan is a friend of his, sent Nan to the hospital, so there is no block.” Trish objects: “Wait…” #nycsc #ows

Trish’s objection is because he didn’t talk to his working group. It’s 11:22; SWRWG will discuss outside of the room. #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “Right now, Strong Women Rules working group is discussing” — they return, couldn’t consense, will stand aside. #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “We have 2 standasides, and 2 blocks. So how many Spokes are here right now?” Counting spokes to prep for modified consensus. #nycsc

Nicole counts the total number of Spokes. There are 23 working groups represented here. “We had 2 standasides, so that’s 21.” #nycsc

Cont’d: “…& we had 2 blocks.” So now we’re moving to modified consensus. “Check in w/ yr grp, figure out if you support the proposal.”#nycsc

Spokes are conferring. It sounds like Media may be preparing to change to stand-aside… #nycsc #ows

(I’m told that Nan was who called the police; she said she got hit by a chair. She got in an ambulance; police told her not to cry wolf.)

(And no, no one seems to know what that whole thing w/ Nan is about.) #nycsc #ows

Here we go. Nicole: “We’re doing modified consensus, which means a total of those supporting and those against.” No standasides. #nycsc #ows

Jason: “Standasides can abstain. We’ll count yes, and no, and compare those 2 numbers.” First, How many nos? “I only see 1.” #nycsc #ows

Next, counting those in favor. Jason: “1…2…3…4…5…6…7…8…9…10…11…12…13…14…15…16…17…18. The proposal passes.” #nycsc #ows

Many start to celebrate, but Jeff interrupts: “Wait. A statement. I take no joy from this.” Many resume celebrating. #nycsc #ows

Jason and Nicole ask folks to let them “acknowledge what happened this meeting.” #nycsc #ows

Nicole: “I want us to be on the same page: we discussed some tricky, urgent issues that need time to be tested, and we need to believe…”

Cont’d: “…in this process and what we’re doing here. So that took 4 hours; it’s fine. That’s what had to, needed to happen. And hopefully..”

Cont’d: “…we have a consensus we can all agree on.” #nycsc #ows

OK, folks! That’s it! Thanks for following this weird delayed broadcast of last night’s #NYCSC! It’s a long process, but we definitely…

…succeeded in unpacking nearly every important angle and coming to vast agreement on something that has many implications. #nycsc #ows

Thanks again; see you tonite for #NYCGA tweets starting 7pm(ish). [Questions, comments, concerns, hit me up: @diceytroop. -Ed.] #nycsc #ows

Hi ya’ll! Welcome to another GA. We’ve been underway for a few minutes now (train delays) but catching up! #nycga #ows

We’re currently in break out groups discussing our first emergency proposal from Direct Action. #nycga #ows

The proposal is on actions on Bungi (sp) on behalf of #OccupyOakland #nycga #ows

DirAction: The action is to generate awareness on that corporation and how they affect west coast long shoreman unions. #nycga #ows

Stairs: Stack is open for concerns and FAs. #nycga #ows

Stairs: Stack is now closed. One friendly amendment. #nycga #ows

Proposal restated: Global & Beyond leader action. They are involved in the slave market. They also monopolize the food system #nycga #ows

Stairs: How does everyone feel? (Uptwinkles). Standasides? (1). Blocks? (None). Consensus reached! #nycga #ows

QuickAnnouncement: Bungi wants to unload a ship but not thru the union. We ask u keep up on this issue. #nycga #ows

EmergencyProposal: This is in response to the GA cutting off funding & housing. #nycga #ows

EmergencyProposal: We would like you to discuss for ten minutes this proposal. #nycga #ows

EmergencyProposal: We ask you help them w/ food stamps, housing, etc. For months we’ve made them dependent on us. #nycga #ows

EmergencyProposal: So what about creating workshops to help build their resumes? We just ask for your help. #nycga #ows

Stairs: So lets take a temp check on breaking out into groups & discussing (uptwinkles). Go, lets break out. #nycga #ows

Stairs: ok, it’s been 10 minutes. How does everyone feel about adding 5 more min? (Ambivalent Uptwinkles) Ok. 3 more min #nycga #ows

Stairs: ok. Everyone come back and give a 2 min report back. #nycga #ows

ReportBack: our idea was to kick this to the radical social workers & tag team w/ individuals who need support. #nycga #ows

ReportBack: and also create a defacto group to have a quick transition to help. #nycga #ows

ReportBack2: There were a variety of opinions here. We were discussing alternative occupations who have open spaces … #nycga #ows

ReportBack2: like occupy new haven who has 100 or so spaces open. #nycga #ows

PoI: the proposers suggest we come back tuesday to further discuss this issue. #nycga #ows

Stack: We think it’s important that those who feel displaced not do anything violent. #nycga #ows

Stack: I do not know how many of u were watching the livestream last night. But there was an incident that could have.. #nycga #ows

Stack:..been prevented. I found last nights event disturbing bc i ended up in the hospital last night. #nycga #ows

Stack: that aside, we have a spokes council where working groups can get things done. #nycga #ows

Stack: unfortunately, that has happened. So, how can the GA create a way to deal with broader issues. #nycga #ows

Stack: the spokes council is creating a divisive environment. #nycga #ows

Stairs: ok so lets take 10 min to discuss how to strengthen the GA. Uptwinkles? (Consensus not reached) #nycga #ows

Stairs: ok, moving onto announcements. #nycga #ows

Sean: About 1/2 the WGs want Nan removed. We havent defines disruptor, but Nan has broken principles of solidarity. #nycga #ows

Stairs: Ok. That was kimd of personal. Please keep announcements to facts or actions. #nycga #ows

Stack: Tomorrow at Charlottes place we’ll have a workshop on using nycga.net. #nycga #ows

Announcement from Minutes: We do need more ppl. Please visit us at nycga.net and contact us if ur interested. #nycga #ows

Announcement: Sat noon-4 there is a march in solidarity with egypt. We meet in front of the UN building. #nycga #ows

Announcement: this monday from 2-4, we have a direct action seminar. Location to be disclosed. Please join us. #nycga #ows

Announcement: im from LA and my website is occupy.freedomla.org. We love u guys & everyone watches u. Thx for the warm welcome. #nycga #ows

Announcement:There are ppl in this mvmnt who stand on moral ground & would never withhold food or shelter. #nycga #ows

Announcement: im from occupy burlington. Ive heard from WashingtonDC that theres an action Mar. 30th there #nycga #ows

Announcement: it seems like a rumor, but it might be in the works. Find out! #nycga #ows

Announcemt: occupy the courts is tomorrow at 5pm beginning here. Join us for this natl day of action! #nycga #ows

Stairs: Ok, thats it for tonight. Thanks for bearing the cold and get warm! Thanks all! #nycga #ows

Thats it for tonight! Thanks again for staying with us! Rest well, all.

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