Tweets for Sun, 22 Jan 2012

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Hi fam! We’re currently awaiting a livestream so we can remotely live tweet the GA. The #occuplague has hit us hard today. #nycga #ows

If anyone’s physically at the GA & wants to paraphrase, that’d be great. This marks the 1st time since #O11 tht @LibertySqGA isn’t onsite :(

RT @j_z_nelson: 15 people in the GA tonight. One proposal and an emergency proposal.

OK, we’re livetweeting from @occupymusician’s livestream:! Here we go… #nycga #ows

“Mic check! The General Assembly will resume right now!” This follows a break taken to move the GA to 60 Wall. Ready to go… #nycga #ows

First proposer: “I’m proposing to have #OWS house parties,” a la Obama campaign “house parties”. #nycga #ows

The idea is to give people a way to gather, share skills, share action ideas, and maybe raise money. #nycga #ows

Proposer notes that if you can connect small actions (recycling, turning off lights) to idea of “occupying wall street”, that’d be great.

Nan’s CQ: “Will this cost money?” Also asks if there’ll be alcohol. Answer: No, and it depends on the host. #nycga #ows

Zack’s CQ: “I feel this is vague; I’m not sure what you’re proposing or asking for.” No $, no date? But he supports having parties. #nycga

PoP: “This doesn’t sound like a proposal; it sounds like an announcement.” A: “I’m talking about #OWS setting a date and being behind it.”

Next questioner suggests this should be discussed in a breakout by DA, then brought to GA, making it “a lot more coordinated.” #nycga #ows

Proposer: “That’d be great!” Says she had this idea & was told to make a proposal, but she’s now learning abt how to work w/ existing grps.

OK, so she’ll table the proposal. There’s an emergency proposal, maybe. Yoni clarifies that means “it’s an external circumstance you…”

Cont’d: “…couldn’t have known earlier.” We’ll hear the proposal, and then we’ll temp check whether it qualifies as an emergency. #nycga #ows

Proposal, by Shazz: “I sent this to Facilitation on Friday; they didn’t put it on the site, asking for more info.” #nycga #ows

Cont’d: “I didn’t know they were going to not respond to it or put it up here.” The proposal is to give him permission to raise money…

Cont’d: …for him to attend the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. It’s coming up soon, so that’s why he says it’s an emergency. #nycga

So, we’re now temp-checking whether we’re interested in hearing the proposal… we are, so we’ll hear the rest of it and move to consensus.

Shazz’s proposal is for us to label him an “official delegate” of #OWS so that he can raise money to go rep #Occupy at WEF in Davos. #nycga

CQ: “Sounds like you’re raising money for yourself to go — you mentioned other #OWS people going. Will you help” them raise $ too? #nycga

A: “That’s a good question!” He’s into it. CQ: “Will you bring an agenda with you?” Shazz would love to send one through the #NYCGA. #OWS

Concern: “I love the idea of engaging w/ Davos,” but thinks it’s too late to handle logistics and vision. Suggests we do something here…

Cont’d: …and then livestream it to participate. Shazz’ A: “I hope you all do something here! But I have a personal reason for wanting…”

Cont’d: “…to go to Europe,” so he’ll try to do that regardless. Next CQ: “Are you willing to go w/ other people?” A: “Yes, it depends on..”

Cont’d: “…how much we raise.” Yuri’s CQ: “You want to leave on the 24th; that gives you 2 days’ time to raise funds and purchase ticket.”

CQ: “Do you have a copy of your written proposal?” A: Yes, it was emailed to @OWSFacilitation, and it’s on his own site. #nycga #ows

OK, Concerns: “If you do raise, say, $15k, who else will be going?” Shazz suggests we figure it out tomorrow, as long as he gets… #nycga

Cont’d: …to be one of them. “I’m not too worried about the money; I suggest tomorrow at 10am we discuss these details.” #nycga #ows

Next, what happens if he raises less than the money he needs to go? “Does that go to you, or to the general fund?” A: The latter… #nycga

Cont’d: …as “long as you make me the delegate. If not, that money’s going to boots or whatever else I need.” #nycga #ows

Nan’s FA: “Let’s put any money you raise if you don’t raise enough into a fund for working groups, not the GA or Spokescouncil.” #nycga

Shazz temp checks it. Very mixed, and many point out “there is no fund for working groups,” aside from the GA. #nycga #ows

Shazz notes that spending freeze may cause more proposals for endorsement of autonomous actions like this one. #nycga #ows

Concern: “If we don’t endorse you, will you represent us anyway?” A: “No, I’ll act at my discretion.” The top 2600 ppl in world’ll be there.

Cont’d: “And they’ll be talking about poverty, and the protests worldwide.” Would be nice to chime in as #OWS. #nycga

Jeff’s concern: “I hope you go, have a presence, raise a banner.” But he questions the idea of us choosing someone to “represent” us. #nycga

OK, sorry, stream was down, but they’re restating. “If you agree to this, #Occupy will help others fundraise, tomorrow we’ll work out…”

Cont’d: “…details about how to coordinate this and get the press release out by noon tomorrow.” Last ? is what to do if money… #nycga #ows

Cont’d: …can’t be raised. Shazz decides, “Let it go to the general fund.” Yoni, facilitating, asks if we’re ready for consensus. #nycga #ows

OK, there are 2 blocks. Nan’s is, “we’re spending money like crazy, that’s one of the reasons we have the spending freeze.” #nycga #ows

Cont’d: “We don’t know how long this $ will be frozen, and we have a problem with housing” getting money. She says it’s ethical because…

Cont’d: …she has a concern that Accounting are evil thieves and, secondarily, that we may stop paying for housing and leave ppl… #nycga

Cont’d: …without someplace to go. Anthony notes that Metrocard, Housing, Kitchen, aren’t affected by spending freeze. #nycga #ows

Nan wants the FA still which would give any extra money to a “fund” for working groups. #nycga #ows

Nan’s block stands. Elizabeth’s block: “I have serious reservations about” “how you’d represent #OWS.” Strong reservations. #nycga #ows

Shazz offers to give her a 1 minute background of what he’s done in the movement, and notes that he handled the #OccupyFarms $. #nycga

Elizabeth and others clarify that that doesn’t affect her concern about him being a representative voice. Moving to modified consensus.

OK, counting those against: 9. Stairs: “We have not reached modified consensus.” Shazz: “Tomorrow, we’ll meet here at 60 Wall…” #nycga #ows

Cont’d: “…for the ‘unofficial’ trip to Switzerland.” 10:30. “Entirely at my discretion how [independently-raised money] is dispensed now.”

Announcements! Someone went to DC, and found that both occupations are still active, if we want to be in an occupied park. #nycga #ows

Nan: “I had a wonderful day today. Woohoo!” They’re indy fundraising too; going to try to start dispensing funds to WGs…. #nycga #ows

Next, someone: “One place we haven’t gotten to is the prisons.” Feels we’ll get revolutionary intellectuals from “prisons, not colleges.”

Someone notes that facilitation has been having a hard time getting proposals submitted up on the website, wants to talk abt it. #nycga #ows

Someone asks, “is there anything on the table to help projects” get money? “If it’s not, we need to do that.” #nycga #ows

OK, that’s it for tonight’s GA! A little more on the prison stuff: “I got a bunch of postcards printed up w/ some of my comrades, b/c…”

Cont’d: “…I think #OWS has reached many parts of society, but not prisons.” First prison GA recently. they’re doing “Occupy The Yard,”…

Cont’d: The postcard is basically a pic of Attica rebellion & info abt how to do GAs, encouraging them to have ’em during normal yard time.

(That’s a project of the Class War working group, see them on for more details.) Awesome! #nycga #ows

Thanks fam, sorry about the 2ndhand tweeting tonite; if you have any miracle cures for noroviruses, hit me up at @diceytroop. <3 #nycga #ows

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