Groups Policy Implementation
January 25, 2012 in Site News
Dear Community,
On December 20th, the General Assembly consensed that all groups must provide (https://www NULL.nycga NULL.net/groups/new-group) the following information in order to make it easier for people to join the movement:
- A mission statement which does not violate the Principles of Solidarity
- A working email or phone number
- Day and time of a weekly open meeting (this should be listed as a recurring event, so that it shows up on the daily schedule)
- Minutes from a weekly meeting, which demonstrate at least 5 people in attendance.
You can see the list of groups and their current status here (https://docs NULL.google NULL.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuwTUUXB5Ii-dFFjbzBpR0NfOXpvNFJLaHBJTWpmbmc). The list is updated once a month.
If you are a member of a group that no longer appears on the website, don’t worry! Your group isn’t gone forever, it can be reactivated once you make sure these guidelines are met.
You’ll need to get in touch with us at groups@nycga.net (groups null@null nycga NULL.net) with the updated info for your group’s website. If you need assistance bringing your group into compliance, please be in touch and InfoHub will be happy to help out.
In solidarity,
-InfoHub Working Group Team
Revision History:
- February 28, 2012 at 1:22 am by NYCGA TechOps (displayed above)
- January 26, 2012 at 2:19 pm by Ravi Ahmad
- January 26, 2012 at 2:16 pm by Ravi Ahmad
- January 25, 2012 at 6:41 am by Ravi Ahmad
- January 25, 2012 at 6:37 am by Jake
- January 25, 2012 at 6:36 am by Jake
Urbaned said on January 26, 2012
Would there be a way for you to list groups that have been removed? Thanks
Ravi Ahmad said on January 26, 2012
added the link this morning.
David Andrew said on January 26, 2012
Let’s not use the word ‘removed’. OWS is much more familiar with the word ‘evict’.
Steve Scher said on January 27, 2012
heheheheh….. i think i love you mr andrew…..
can you cook?
vets74 said on February 28, 2012
“DELETE” is accurate.
Urbaned said on January 26, 2012
You know, even though I have two groups, I haven’t been able to get them going! So, I can understand that they should be “archived.” Maybe that’s a better term. Now that I have done due diligence and actually reread the letter above, I see that they can be resurrected. I just kind of wish I could still view them, but I do understand the need for nygca.net to focus and I also see the need to remove groups that are abusing the website.
drew said on January 26, 2012
That’s a great idea, I’ll propose that to Tech.
Urbaned said on January 26, 2012
the main reason is that I would like to be able to recall who joined…there are about 180 members in Education Revolution now. I am hoping that one day OWS can get to the topic of education, but first, we have to figure out how to meet, for example, civilly.
Ravi Ahmad said on January 26, 2012
Definitely. Also, Education & Empowerment has been doing some interesting work. Perhaps you could collaborate?
Marsha aka the Knitting Lady said on January 26, 2012
S.I.S. is a non-compliant group yet they are still on the site. Are you going to remove them?
Urbaned said on January 26, 2012
what’s S.I.S?
Ravi Ahmad said on January 26, 2012
SIS is storage inventory and supplies. They’re trying to get their minutes up so we’re giving them a few more days. If a group is making some kind of effort- scheduling weekly meetings, starting to post notes, etc.- I think the community should give them a chance. Its groups that we haven’t heard back from at all or who have said they are defunct that we’ve removed.
Marsha aka the Knitting Lady said on January 27, 2012
so why don’t you every group the same chance? there are groups that have been deleted that have been working on movement building that are no longer on the site. GIVE THEM A CHANCE TOO!
Ravi Ahmad said on January 27, 2012
Hi Marsha,
I’m sure if any of the archived groups have concerns and would like to be made active again, they’ll be in touch at groups@nycga.net (groups null@null nycga NULL.net).
If you know people in this situation, please help spread the word.
Thanks so much!
R
Alex Nicoletti said on January 31, 2012
The above statement is simply not true. I was in the process of setting up a meeting when my group was taken down.
If you’re group is a fringe group or controversial at least in your name don’t expect to be treated the same as the 1 or maybe even 5% of the 99%.
I have contacted groups@nycga.net (groups null@null nycga NULL.net) and as of this morning have not heard back, as with every experience that I have had in attempting to help this movement I expect a slow if I’m lucky enough to get any response.
It’s ok I’m not really complaining just pointing out the reality; nothing changes when those that are trying to make a change are the same if not worst then what they are suppose to be changing…
Ravi Ahmad said on January 31, 2012
Hi Alex,
I see an email from you at 1:12 pm yesterday. 24 hours for your email to be answered seems kind of reasonable…
I’ll answer it now and hopefully we can get this sorted out.
best,
Ravi
Alex Nicoletti said on January 31, 2012
You’re right Ravi it is very reasonable. And I must apologize for my last remark as it was more coming from other experiences that I have had within this movement. I also need to confess that I have not in anyway figured out the multitude of diverse energy of this movement. When I think I got it figured out someone like yourself comes along and sets a different understanding. I mean that in the best of ways and thank you again for a very reasonable and timely reply….
Trish said on February 2, 2012
Alex,
Is it also reasonable to expect the nycga council
(working group) to wait and wait in posting any of
their events/meetings/teach-in, etc. in
the EVENTS AREA of nycga.net?
It’s mandatory to post the times of a working
groups meetings to be in compliance of GA passed
outline regarding operational OWS working Groups.
FYI: We’ve started a forum topic, regarding the issue, anyone can give their feed-back.
Peace & Alex N.
OCCU-EVOLVE said on January 26, 2012
QUESTION…how can a group thats been in non-compliance with this site and its point person banned from spokes and a church STILL be allowed to present A proposal at the GA?
Ravi Ahmad said on January 26, 2012
Ask Facilitation…
Shawn Carrié said on January 26, 2012
How can Facilitation do that if we don’t have any Information?
Ravi Ahmad said on January 26, 2012
You do. I shared the list with Facilitation on Monday. I used facilitation@nycga.net (facilitation null@null nycga NULL.net) but haven’t received any individual access requests so I’m assuming you guys are good to go.
OCCU-EVOLVE said on January 26, 2012
well we KNOW the answer there!
Nadina LaSpina said on January 29, 2012
I’m an administrator of the Disability Caucus, which was removed/archived last week. I’ve e-mailed groups@nycga.net (groups null@null nycga NULL.net) twice and received no answer. The Disability Caucus had some trouble getting off the ground. But we had a meeting today and will be meeting every week from now on, & have minutes to post (if our group gets resurrected). How can I check on the status of our group?
Ravi Ahmad said on January 30, 2012
Hi Nadina,
I see that you emailed twice on Friday. I’m sorry I haven’t gotten back to you over the weekend. Occupy Town Square was quite absorbing. I’ve just sent you a reply.
best,
R
Nadina LaSpina said on January 30, 2012
Thanks for your reply. I’ll contact drew@nycga.net (drew null@null nycga NULL.net) and see if I can attend the training on the website (possibly this afternoon).
Nadina LaSpina said on January 30, 2012
I figured out how to check the status. Our group will be back on the site today. Thanks.
Ravi Ahmad said on January 30, 2012
Awesome!
seth said on January 30, 2012
There needs to be a way for members of a group no longer active on the site to access the information that was posted.
Monica McLaughlin said on February 4, 2012
Hi Ravi (@raviahmad),
I have a question about the Comfort WG. Has anyone tried to reinstate It? I ask because I am trying to get figures together to do an OWS expenditure pie chart (using figures from Finance (Accounting) and the list of GA approved Proposals). I want to make sure the figures used in the pie chart are as accurate as possible and so am checking with the WG to make sure there are no mistakes. Comfort has received a sizeable amount of OWS money, so it seems unlikely that they are no longer active. Would you know?
Ravi Ahmad said on February 6, 2012
Hey Monica,
I haven’t received any contact from anyone trying to re-start Comfort which is sad. They were doing great work but don’t seem to have been having meetings for a while now.
If you find out anything else, please let me know!
R
Monica McLaughlin said on February 4, 2012
Another rquestion. I read somewhere that groups can have virtual meetings or tele-conferences in lieu of in-person meetings? Is this true? I am very interested, because one member of the A&T group is unable to leave her home unless she is accompanied by a doctor and so she can never attend in-person meetings. Thanks.
Ravi Ahmad said on February 6, 2012
Sure, that’s fine. The proposal says that the meeting itself needs to be in the NYC area but people can call in from wherever. If fewer than 5 actual people turn up at the in person meeting, that could be a problem though. Let’s see how it goes.
Trish said on February 29, 2012
Ravi,
Following the info. you shared with Chris and I last night…
Thank you for confirming nycga council is an active OWS WG.
We don’t really know how to respond to such an outrageous
alleged allegation relating to the groups minutes.
Our only concern is whomever is monitoring the minutes of WG’s
should preform this task within 7days of posting.
What does the community think? Should I make a proposal?
Trish
Trish said on February 5, 2012
Saturday 02.04.2012, General Assembly, The Atrium 60 Wall Street
Ravi says…
Cannot put group in compliance category, even though it’s not their fault (tech-op glitch) they cannot
post group’s meeting/activities on (Event Section,nycga.net)
Instructed me to get in touch with tech-ops.
Peace & Technical Difficultities
vets74 said on February 26, 2012
These Know-It-Alls have just erased/deleted the Occupy Nonviolence resource group.
Tiny little thing. 34 members. Items forwarded to the email, then put up for general use.
Totally passive. A repository for items related to modern and traditions Gandhi-and-King nonviolence. Layouts for banners, posters, originals for source documents, Eastern European NDA texts, etc.
Used
vets74 said on February 28, 2012
Used to cover efforts to communicate with the modern standard bearers from the Civil Rights Movement, begun last September 25th at what was apparently a “G.A.” at Zuccotti, and to record useful or popular files.
At what point did “Venit, occupavit, nos perderit” become the new motto?
Urbaned said on February 26, 2012
You can start a list in bettermeans: http://collaborate.occupy.net (http://collaborate NULL.occupy NULL.net)
Alex Nicoletti said on February 28, 2012
I really appreciate this policy and how it had changed and grown. It is really meant for what is best for OWS and is done in the most fair and caring manner. I was given the opportunity many times to start the “Warrior Group” however other then myself there was really no one actively participating in this group. The process was very fair and still allows for groups that are now labeled as “inactive” to become active again was there is enough interested for it to be a true working group. My goals for this group was a bit too ambitious as well as unrelalistic and is not in line with what most occupiers are prepared to do. One warrior is like a drop of water a true warrior group is like a flood that can reshape reality. If any warriors come along and read this post get in contact with me. Please no want-a-bees remember a warrior does not promote war we end them and we start with the war within ourselves.
Urbaned said on February 29, 2012
The policy makes sense to me, because of what you said, @awakeneddragon, and also because it lesson Tech Ops’ amount of work. Since we’re all volunteers, we can’t respond to all tech requests immediately. Also, with less groups to manage, tech ops can concentrate on writing code rather than maintaining unused forums.